[olug] Bash in Windows 10

Thu Mar 31 10:03:57 CDT 2016

I'm interested to see what else might come from the Microsoft Loves Linux
campaign. We've already seen:

Linux based switches on Azure-
http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-demonstrates-its-linux-based-azure-cloud-switch-operating-system/
Linux on Azure (Which I've tried. very nice.) -
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/documentation/articles/virtual-machines-linux-endorsed-distros/
SSH for powershell -
https://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/06/03/openssh-windows-and-powershell.aspx
MS SQL for Linux -
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/sql-server-on-linux.aspx

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:05 PM Kevin <sharpestmarble at gmail.com> wrote:

> Satya Nadella is not Steve Ballmer, and his policies reflect that. He's
> actually making good strides towards making things better for users, and
> less restrictive. Windows 10 for everyone, offering apps for free(I had
> Microsoft's translator on my Android for a while because it could do audio
> translation and Google Translate couldn't). These things are examples of
> something that Steve Jobs would never have allowed, and wouldn't even be
> considered under Ballmer.
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:15 PM, Christopher Cashell <topher-olug at zyp.org>
> wrote:
>
> > No, they basically built an ELF and system call translation layer that
> > they're calling the "Windows Subsystem for Linux".  It reminds me someone
> > of the old POSIX Subsystem for NT and the Unix Services for Windows that
> > existed until it was half integrated into Windows 2008R2 and half dumped.
> >
> > It honestly looks pretty awesome.  Here's the best bits from one of the
> > articles linked below:
> >
> > Here's let's break it down slowly...
> >
> >
> >    1. Windows 10 users
> >       2. Can open the Windows Start menu
> >       3. And type "*bash*" [enter]
> >       4. Which opens a *cmd.exe* console
> >       5. Running Ubuntu's */bin/bash*
> >       6. With full access to all of Ubuntu user space
> >       7. Yes, that means *apt <http://manpg.es/apt>*, *ssh*
> >       <http://manpg.es/ssh>, *rsync <http://manpg.es/rsync>*, *find
> >       <http://manpg.es/find>*, *grep <http://manpg.es/grep>*, *awk
> >       <http://manpg.es/awk>*, *sed <http://manpg.es/sed>*, *sort
> >       <http://manpg.es/sort>*, *xargs <http://manpg.es/xargs>*, *md5sum
> >       <http://manpg.es/md5sum>*, *gpg <http://manpg.es/gpg>*, *curl
> >       <http://manpg.es/curl>*, *wget <http://manpg.es/wget>*,*apache
> >       <http://manpg.es/apache2>*, *mysql* <http://manpg.es/mysql>,
> *python
> >       <http://manpg.es/python>*, *perl <http://manpg.es/perl>*, *ruby
> >       <http://manpg.es/ruby>*, *php <http://manpg.es/php>*, *gcc
> >       <http://manpg.es/gcc>, tar <http://manpg.es/tar>, vim
> >       <http://manpg.es/vim>, emacs <http://manpg.es/emacs>, diff
> >       <http://manpg.es/diff>, patch <http://manpg.es/patch>*...
> >       8. And most of the tens of thousands binary packages available in
> the
> >       Ubuntu archives!
> >
> > *"Right, so just Ubuntu running in a virtual machine?"*  Nope!  This
> isn't
> > a virtual machine at all.  There's no Linux kernel booting in a VM under
> a
> > hypervisor.  It's just the Ubuntu user space.
> >
> > *"Ah, okay, so this is Ubuntu in a container then?"*  Nope!  This isn't a
> > container either.  It's native Ubuntu binaries running directly in
> Windows.
> >
> > *"Hum, well it's like cygwin perhaps?"*  Nope!  *Cygwin *includes open
> > source utilities are recompiled from source to run natively in Windows.
> > Here, we're talking about bit-for-bit, checksum-for-checksum Ubuntu ELF
> > binaries running directly in Windows.
> >
> >
> > *"So maybe something like a Linux emulator?"*  Now you're getting warmer!
> > A team of sharp developers at Microsoft has been hard at work adapting
> some
> > Microsoft research technology to basically perform real time translation
> of
> > Linux syscalls into Windows OS syscalls.  Linux geeks can think of it
> sort
> > of the inverse of "wine" -- Ubuntu binaries running natively in Windows.
> > Microsoft calls it their "Windows Subsystem for Linux".  (No, it's not
> open
> > source at this time.)
> >
> > *Oh, and it's totally shit hot!*  The *sysbench
> > <http://manpg.es/sysbench>*utility
> > is showing nearly equivalent cpu, memory, and io performance.
> >
> >
> > Here are a couple of articles for more info.  The latter one is from an
> > Ubuntu developer who's been working on the project.
> >
> >
> >
> http://techcrunch.com/2016/03/30/be-very-afraid-hell-has-frozen-over-bash-is-coming-to-windows-10/
> > http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/03/ubuntu-on-windows.html
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:05 PM, T. J. Brumfield <enderandrew at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The really odd thing is that they specifically said this is native and
> > not
> > > cross-compiled tools (like Cygwin).
> > >
> > > Does this mean they basically rewrote bash and GNU tools from scratch
> as
> > > new Windows apps?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:02 PM, Jared Bernard <
> jared.bernard at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I had to make sure it wasn't April fools yet. This looks legit.
> > > > In case someone hasn't seen the news yet.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11331014/microsoft-windows-linux-ubuntu-bash
> > > >
> > > > A great way to fix the Windows command line.
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