[olug] Bash in Windows 10

[Kevin]

Satya Nadella is not Steve Ballmer, and his policies reflect that. He's
actually making good strides towards making things better for users, and
less restrictive. Windows 10 for everyone, offering apps for free(I had
Microsoft's translator on my Android for a while because it could do audio
translation and Google Translate couldn't). These things are examples of
something that Steve Jobs would never have allowed, and wouldn't even be
considered under Ballmer.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:15 PM, Christopher Cashell <topher-olug at zyp.org>
wrote:

> No, they basically built an ELF and system call translation layer that
> they're calling the "Windows Subsystem for Linux".  It reminds me someone
> of the old POSIX Subsystem for NT and the Unix Services for Windows that
> existed until it was half integrated into Windows 2008R2 and half dumped.
>
> It honestly looks pretty awesome.  Here's the best bits from one of the
> articles linked below:
>
> Here's let's break it down slowly...
>
>
>    1. Windows 10 users
>       2. Can open the Windows Start menu
>       3. And type "*bash*" [enter]
>       4. Which opens a *cmd.exe* console
>       5. Running Ubuntu's */bin/bash*
>       6. With full access to all of Ubuntu user space
>       7. Yes, that means *apt <http://manpg.es/apt>*, *ssh*
>       <http://manpg.es/ssh>, *rsync <http://manpg.es/rsync>*, *find
>       <http://manpg.es/find>*, *grep <http://manpg.es/grep>*, *awk
>       <http://manpg.es/awk>*, *sed <http://manpg.es/sed>*, *sort
>       <http://manpg.es/sort>*, *xargs <http://manpg.es/xargs>*, *md5sum
>       <http://manpg.es/md5sum>*, *gpg <http://manpg.es/gpg>*, *curl
>       <http://manpg.es/curl>*, *wget <http://manpg.es/wget>*,*apache
>       <http://manpg.es/apache2>*, *mysql* <http://manpg.es/mysql>, *python
>       <http://manpg.es/python>*, *perl <http://manpg.es/perl>*, *ruby
>       <http://manpg.es/ruby>*, *php <http://manpg.es/php>*, *gcc
>       <http://manpg.es/gcc>, tar <http://manpg.es/tar>, vim
>       <http://manpg.es/vim>, emacs <http://manpg.es/emacs>, diff
>       <http://manpg.es/diff>, patch <http://manpg.es/patch>*...
>       8. And most of the tens of thousands binary packages available in the
>       Ubuntu archives!
>
> *"Right, so just Ubuntu running in a virtual machine?"*  Nope!  This isn't
> a virtual machine at all.  There's no Linux kernel booting in a VM under a
> hypervisor.  It's just the Ubuntu user space.
>
> *"Ah, okay, so this is Ubuntu in a container then?"*  Nope!  This isn't a
> container either.  It's native Ubuntu binaries running directly in Windows.
>
> *"Hum, well it's like cygwin perhaps?"*  Nope!  *Cygwin *includes open
> source utilities are recompiled from source to run natively in Windows.
> Here, we're talking about bit-for-bit, checksum-for-checksum Ubuntu ELF
> binaries running directly in Windows.
>
>
> *"So maybe something like a Linux emulator?"*  Now you're getting warmer!
> A team of sharp developers at Microsoft has been hard at work adapting some
> Microsoft research technology to basically perform real time translation of
> Linux syscalls into Windows OS syscalls.  Linux geeks can think of it sort
> of the inverse of "wine" -- Ubuntu binaries running natively in Windows.
> Microsoft calls it their "Windows Subsystem for Linux".  (No, it's not open
> source at this time.)
>
> *Oh, and it's totally shit hot!*  The *sysbench
> <http://manpg.es/sysbench>*utility
> is showing nearly equivalent cpu, memory, and io performance.
>
>
> Here are a couple of articles for more info.  The latter one is from an
> Ubuntu developer who's been working on the project.
>
>
> http://techcrunch.com/2016/03/30/be-very-afraid-hell-has-frozen-over-bash-is-coming-to-windows-10/
> http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/03/ubuntu-on-windows.html
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:05 PM, T. J. Brumfield <enderandrew at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The really odd thing is that they specifically said this is native and
> not
> > cross-compiled tools (like Cygwin).
> >
> > Does this mean they basically rewrote bash and GNU tools from scratch as
> > new Windows apps?
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:02 PM, Jared Bernard <jared.bernard at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I had to make sure it wasn't April fools yet. This looks legit.
> > > In case someone hasn't seen the news yet.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11331014/microsoft-windows-linux-ubuntu-bash
> > >
> > > A great way to fix the Windows command line.
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