[olug] Tesla PowerWall for server room battery backup

[Rob Townley]

Forgot to mention the Tesla Powerpack <https://www.tesla.com/powerpack> is
for commercial 3phase, but seemed out of our league in capacity and price
at the time.
https://www.tesla.com/powerpack


On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 7:56 PM Rob Townley <rob.townley at gmail.com> wrote:

> A certified Tesla installer from out-of-state replied back that Tesla no
> longer allows their powerwall to be used in 3phase 208v power systems like
> ours and most businesses.  It is allowed in Australia and other places but
> not the USA.
>
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 3:35 PM Reiners Cloud Consulting LLC <
> justin at reiners.io> wrote:
>
>> BTW just confirmed phones were pretty much down across the country for a
>> while on /r/sysadmin.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 3:22 PM Justin Reiners <justin at hotlinesinc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ours were stuck on the slow boat for a few months as well, it was
>>> horrible.
>>>
>>> Let me see where I ordered from, our recycler is ASS in CB American
>>> Salvage and Surplus or whatever, I'll let you know where we get the
>>> batteries when I get a callback.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:54 PM Rob Townley <rob.townley at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, please send the UPS contact.  We have been in need of batteries
>>>> for a
>>>> while, but somehow are on the slowboat.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:47 PM Reiners Cloud Consulting LLC <
>>>> justin at reiners.io> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Not saying a *new* liebert :) We can't buy new anything. If we could
>>>> pay
>>>> > for used cloud we would :)
>>>> >
>>>> > We spent about $4000 for batteries direct from manufacturer, and
>>>> Liebert
>>>> > has no problem working on it, they actually had to come in and config
>>>> the
>>>> > software for us when we swapped batteries, they guy that installed
>>>> > batteries 10 years ago forgot to set the pack voltage correctly. I've
>>>> got a
>>>> > contact in CB that might be able to find a huge UPS used if you are
>>>> > interested.
>>>> >
>>>> > Cox phones are down? Yikes, Flowroute is working great :) We're
>>>> getting
>>>> > ready to leave Cox Fiber, they are awfully proud of it pricewise.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:40 PM Rob Townley <rob.townley at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>  We have a big empty roof that just might have solar cells someday.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> There are definitely known problems and the unknown with Tesla.  For
>>>> one,
>>>> >> I am not liking any dependency on the cloud.  From what i
>>>> understand, if
>>>> >> the internet drops, there is a local embedded webpage that one could
>>>> >> manually use to give details on remaining power.  Does not appear
>>>> the app
>>>> >> would automatically start using WiFi to get to that local webpage,
>>>> >> however.   I doubt even a buzzer alarm goes off when utility power
>>>> dies.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Tesla batteries have a built-in ten year warranty.  Liebert would
>>>> charge
>>>> >> about six thousand for about half that time.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Since I am not currently a Tesla owner, the Tesla forums
>>>> >> <https://forums.tesla.com/> only allow me to post replies to
>>>> existing
>>>> >> questions, not initiate a new one.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> p.s. COX Telephone is down city wide+.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:57 PM Justin Reiners <
>>>> justin at hotlinesinc.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > Don't get me wrong, I love love love Tesla, EV's, and Lithium, I'd
>>>> just
>>>> >> > hate to have you still need a UPS to safely shut down systems when
>>>> the
>>>> >> > power went out, or reinvent the wheel.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:54 PM Justin Reiners <
>>>> justin at hotlinesinc.com>
>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> Lack of shutdown notifications and the price would be a factor in
>>>> me
>>>> >> >> looking for another device, We're using a 10KVA and 15KVA older
>>>> >> Lieberts
>>>> >> >> for our building. I really like them, we got them used from a
>>>> recycler
>>>> >> a
>>>> >> >> few years ago, and just replaced the batteries recently in the
>>>> 10KVA
>>>> >> after
>>>> >> >> 10 years, it still had half hour backup power.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:17 PM Rob Townley <
>>>> rob.townley at gmail.com>
>>>> >> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>> Has anyone researched using Tesla PowerWalls in place of lead
>>>> acid
>>>> >> >>> battery
>>>> >> >>> backup for server room computers?   A single powerwall could
>>>> provide
>>>> >> 5kW
>>>> >> >>> continuous power.   Price and performance seem comparable to lead
>>>> >> acid.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> Tesla.com/powerwall
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> Tesla.com/powerpack is the more industrial grade system, but
>>>> starts at
>>>> >> >>> 50kVA which is much more than we need.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> Unfortunately, there are no installers in Omaha.
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>>>> >
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>>>> > Justin Reiners
>>>> > Reiners Cloud Consulting LLC
>>>> > I'm happy to be your local Omaha distributor for 3CX and SimpleHelp!
>>>> > Contact me for info.
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>> Justin Reiners
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>> I'm happy to be your local Omaha distributor for 3CX and SimpleHelp!
>> Contact me for info.
>>
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