[olug] Slightly off topic: Ansible

Kevin sharpestmarble at gmail.com
Wed Nov 8 19:38:52 CST 2017 

I thought you were going to post https://xkcd.com/927/

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 8:51 PM, Ben Watson <bwatson1979 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Obligatory XKCD: https://xkcd.com/1782/
>
> If you're into protocols there is also Riot (https://about.riot.im/) and
> Matrix (https://matrix.org/)
>
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 11:56 PM, Jay Bendon <jaybocc2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Slack has an API that is also very easy to integrate with so a lot of
> > business tools and automation can me hooked to it. It really is irc for
> the
> > non nerd.  But has a lot of benefits that causes them to get hookedm
> >
> > On Nov 1, 2017 10:31 AM, "aric at omahax.com" <aric at omahax.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Just commenting on the IRC vs Slack debate.
> > > Out of principle, I'd prefer to use a protocol and some code for
> > > communication instead of using someone elses computer that is running a
> > > proprietary service.  ............I don't miss the AIM/Yahoo/IQC/MSN
> > > Trillian aggregated chatroom messenger cluster mess.
> > > What would be nice would be an open-source decentralized version of
> Slack
> > > with end to end encryption. I don't think it would be too hard to do,
> all
> > > the parts are there. ........kiss the skynet
> > >
> > > ------ Original message------From: Tony GiesDate: Wed, Nov 1, 2017
> 10:16
> > > AMTo: Omaha Linux User Group;Cc: Subject:Re: [olug] Slightly off topic:
> > > Ansible
> > > What Jay said. If you like IRC, you can basically squint and pretend
> > > it's IRC, or actually use the IRC bridge to log in. But it also has
> > > the large sans serif type, colorful layouts, and emojis that your non
> > > technical staff need in order to feel comfortable, and enables the
> > > early-20-somethings who only communicate in animated GIFs of
> > > characters from TV shows to do so. The main downside is that the
> > > official client is just a web app that you either need to keep a
> > > browser window for, or download their "desktop app" which is done in
> > > Electron meaning it hosts an entire separate Chromium browser itself
> > > and eats up an absolute crapton of RAM just sitting there, and still
> > > is essentially just a thin client to the same web app.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tony Gies
> > > Technical Projects Director
> > > gruppe86 | IT Consulting, Software Development, Systems Integration
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Jay Bendon  wrote:
> > > > Not to mention most business these days use slack as real time
> internal
> > > > communications from CEO to sales to engineering.  Sales people
> usually
> > > > don't get excited about setting up IRC.
> > > >
> > > > --Jay
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Ben Watson  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Slack workspaces like these (e.g. ansible-users) are free (for now)
> > the
> > > >> caveat being that you cannot search your message history past 10K
> > > >> messages.  If you want that feature (and others), then you have to
> > pay.
> > > >>
> > > >> I've been an IRC user for a long time and share your sentiment of
> > "geez,
> > > >> yet another chat client", however, I have come to appreciate Slack's
> > > >> "batteries included integrations" and consistent UI across
> thick/thin
> > > apps
> > > >> on desktop and mobile platforms.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Kevin  wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > I'm with Rob. Don't see what's wrong with IRC as a protocol. While
> > the
> > > >> old
> > > >> > clients may not be as user-friendly as Slack may or may not
> > be(haven't
> > > >> used
> > > >> > it myself), newer clients can implement various IRC commands, such
> > as
> > > >> > listing/joining/leaving channels, connecting to servers, etc in
> > > whatever
> > > >> > user-friendly/Apple-esque fashion they like.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 2:15 AM, Jay Bendon  wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > You can connect to slack via your favorite IRC client.
> > > >> > > https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/201727913-Connect-
> > > >> > > to-Slack-over-IRC-and-XMPP
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > --Jay
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:53 PM, Rob Townley
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > Dan, appreciate your effort here and like Ansible.
> > > >> > > > i grudgingly joined because i do not see what is wrong with
> IRC.
> > > >> > Slack
> > > >> > > is
> > > >> > > > not open source.  Slack costs money. yada yada...
> > > >> > > > Does one have to pay to start a channel like this?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ben Watson
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > Thanks for making this.  Look forward to some interesting
> > chats
> > > and
> > > >> > > > sharing
> > > >> > > > > knowledge.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Dan Linder  wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > It's not a good day for me and remembering URLs in
> emails...
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > https://join.slack.com/t/ansible-users/shared_invite/
> > > >> > > > > > enQtMjQ3NjY5MjUzMzQ0LWVkYTgwMj
> > U2ZTFkMGRkMDA1NWE0OWRlMjRiYjQ1
> > > >> > > > > > YjQ0N2RkNjk3N2QxMDkwOTViNzdiNTVlOWE5YWE4YmVjMzY
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Dan
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Justin Reiners <
> > > >> > > justin at hotlinesinc.com
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > It looks like I might need an invite
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Dan Linder
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > For anyone who's using Ansible and wants to ask
> > questions
> > > or
> > > >> > have
> > > >> > > > > > general
> > > >> > > > > > > > discussions around it, I've setup a Slack room:
> > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > https://ansible-users.slack.com/
> > > >> > > > > > > >
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