[olug] In RE: 2015 is almost here. What are your plans?

[Matthew G. Marsh]

Amen!

Praise the Lord & Pass the Ammunition (yes I do own a playable 78 
rpm of that song & have played it...)

Sadly I rarely have compile problems as I tend to shun programs that have 
GNU dependencies (ie: 42 million libraries each with one line included) 
but then I also control my own distro so it makes it easier.

I predict I would not be able to use any modern (post 2002) distro as I 
have no idea how they work anymore so I may just as well use OSX. Actually 
anymore I do use OSX for my desktop (10.6 that is) as it is unix. But the 
servers etc are all PakSecured...

Although on the plus side most of the distros seem to have finally 
(mostly) caught up to the capabilities of the 1998 linux IP networking 
stack...

Am really curious about the CNC stuff. Hope you share.

written with pride on Pine - no gui - no crap - no spam.

mgm

On Fri, 26 Dec 2014, unfy wrote:

>
> On 12/26/2014 5:26 PM, Aric Aasgaard wrote:
>> One thing I like about the meeting presentations is that everybody does 
>> things differently, so it doesn't really matter to me how simple the 
>> presentation might be, you will see how other people do it.  I have noticed 
>> as I and other people get older they tend to do things how the had always 
>> done them in the past.  I have sort of a phobia of this so I am always 
>> trying to figure out better ways of doing things and it is very helpful for 
>> me to see how other people do it.
>> 
>
> There are some cases when the phobia is warranted.
>
> Take for instance the needlessly complicated XML configuration files in 
> modern linux-ha's that *require* point and click tools to work on them.
>
> Maybe I secretly long for the 2.0 kernel days and slackware and afterstep / 
> window maker  and and and.... heh.
>
> "its all too complicated cause there are these config files!" ... but those 
> config files were straight forward SIMPLE text files! tools did one thing and 
> they did them well! rawrrrrrrrrrrr
>
> -------
>
> As an aside, I happened to try to get OpenCV (computer vision) stuff to 
> install on a Vista machine with an older version of video studio (2005 i 
> think).  After a few attempts to build it and it's 120958120958102958 deps 
> from source, I gave up and tried to do a binary install.  After 3 of those 
> attempts I simply gave up.
>
> Why mention this windows specific problem ?  Because dependency hell used to 
> be a unix only thing :P.  Much like I've just hit (with the NTP recompile for 
> security concerns) with linux -- even source tar balls can have deps that 
> make building on older systems impossible out of the box (i had to remove 
> some stuff in the Makefile's that were bad params to programs).
>
> I'm always nervous about having to build a new package for some reason 
> (security related usually) - because who knows what stupidly simple thing 
> some asinine college grad broke thinking their new way would be cool or 
> trendy.  Bastards! All of them!  RAWRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>
> -unfy

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