[olug] OT - Windows network question

Thu Nov 15 23:22:32 UTC 2012

If its local I can help with setup after hours.
On Nov 15, 2012 4:00 PM, "Jason N" <dashrender at cox.net> wrote:

> I agree with Justin,
> Use one of those workstations as a firewall.  There are several free linux
> based firewalls that you setup, some easier than others.  As Justin
> mentioned, you'll need to add an additional NIC card to the workstation
> most likely.
>
> I'd leave the cabling, someone might want to use it in the future.
>
> ---- Justin Reiners <justin at hotlinesinc.com> wrote:
> I would turn one of those workstations into the firewall. Wireless should
> be fine if you don't need speed or wired reliability. That setup would be
> an easy task to accomplish. I would go DSL modem>ipcop router>Linksys
> wireless router with dhcp disabled>port 1:ipcop router, Port 2: server.
>
> Turn off dhcp in router, and do not use wan port. I would be willing to
> give you a hand if need be. Existing cabling can stay, but I would remove
> it.
>
> You would need a PCI NIC card for IPCOP router and wireless NICs for
> workstations. you could also use Clearos for routing and do samba share/any
> services on that.
>
> I think my home setup is a lot more involved (but hey I am a network
> administrator, can anything be uncomplicated? :)
>
> But I would go wired if it was me as well. a pxe setup/image server is a
> bit overkill for this setup.
>
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2012 9:15 AM, "Dan Staehr" <staehrmedia at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > Jason, Sam and all,
> >
> > I didn't design the network.
> >
> > The network documentation states DSL modem is setup in Bridge mode with
> > the Linksys RVS4000 as the gateway handling the PPoE Authentication.
> >
> > The volume licenses are for the Office 2007 Suites and the Windows
> Server.
> > It appears the OS for the Workstations, Windows 7 Pro is OEM to each.
> >
> > The non-profit put together the network as part of a grant project. So
> all
> > of the workstations are the same, Dell Vostro 220s computers.
> >
> > I don't have details from the non-profit as to whether the systems they
> > are planning to sell will be going to another non-profit.
> >
> > Also, should I go to the trouble to remove the cabling currently in
> place?
> > At least the short runs?
> >
> > Thanks for your helpful advice, and my apologies for posting in a Linux
> > group.
> >
> > Dan Staehr, President
> > Staehr Media Services
> > 6117 NW 4th Street
> > Lincoln, NE 68521-3774
> > 402-440-5869
> >
> > On 11/15/2012 8:02 AM, Jason N wrote:
> >
> >> Interesting.  I'm guessing you didn't design their network.
> >>
> >> So no real firewall eh?  Seem completely outside the norm for today's
> >> businesses. OK some might argue that the Linksys is a firewall, and
> that's
> >> true - but it's certainly not anywhere near what a typical small
> business
> >> uses.
> >>
> >> I would not move to a Wireless DSL modem.  If the current Linksys router
> >> does not have wireless built into it, I'd replace it with one that does.
> >>  Let the ISP provide internet service, don't let them control your
> network.
> >>
> >> You can probably skip the switch, dub the hub for sure!  Assuming 4
> >> machines it sounds like you'll have something like the following:
> >> DSL - Linksys wireless router - Server on port 1, workstation on port 2
> >> and wireless to the remaining devices.
> >>
> >> Are you sure the workstations OS is volume license?  In an environment
> >> this small that seems pretty odd.  I wouldn't be surprised if the
> server OS
> >> and the applications (MS Office) were all volume licenses.  If the
> >> Workstations have stickers on them with the name of an OS, you can
> >> reinstall that OS on the machine and then sell it with no worries.  If
> the
> >> office has Volume licenses for MS Office, etc don't install those before
> >> selling the machine.
> >>
> >> Volume licenses can be transferred, but it's a pain in the rear.  Also
> if
> >> they are non profit licenses, there are limits to whom you can transfer
> >> them to.
> >>
> >>
> >> -Jason
> >>
> >>
> >> ---- Dan Staehr <staehrmedia at neb.rr.com> wrote:
> >> Some clarification...
> >>
> >> Currently the network is a wired setup, with the DSL modem, then a
> >> linksys router, a switch and hub..I believe a cross over to the server,
> >> a Dell PowerEdge, running VMware Esxi for Base OS, and Windows Server
> >> 2008 for the server OS.
> >>
> >> There have been 8 workstations in the past, but the network will shrink
> >> to 3, maybe 4 workstations in the new office location which will be
> >> much, much smaller, hence the idea to go wireless rather than wired if
> >> possible.
> >>
> >> I might opt for a wireless DSL modem, but run wired to the server. Thus
> >> eliminate the router, will I still need the hub and switch setup?
> >>
> >> As for the current server shares, I would go in and remove the unused
> >> shares.
> >>
> >> The current machines are on a volume license, but I doubt they can
> >> legally be transferred to a new owner, but haven't researched that, so
> >> its either nuke the drives of the extra computers and offer them without
> >> OS or replace with ubuntu or some other Linux distro.
> >>
> >> I mainly work with PC's and have set up peer to peer, non-server
> >> networks for the most part, with shared internet access. So my server
> >> based network experience is limited.
> >>
> >> Dan Staehr, President
> >> Staehr Media Services
> >> 6117 NW 4th Street
> >> Lincoln, NE 68521-3774
> >> 402-440-5869
> >>
> >> On 11/14/2012 6:27 PM, dashrender at cox.net wrote:
> >>
> >>> If you are not putting windows back on those machines, you can nuke
> >>> them however you want, then install ubuntu.
> >>>
> >>> As for wireless, if the machines are desktops and don't have wireless
> >>> cards in them you will have to purchase either internal or USB
> >>> wireless adapters for them.
> >>>
> >>> If the office is small enough you can probably get away with a linkage
> >>> wireless access point.  You should disable DHCP on it and not use the
> >>> WAN/Internet port.  Have your windows server provide DHCP to all
> >>> client machines.
> >>>
> >>> What are you using for a firewall?
> >>>
> >>> You mentioned connecting the DSL to wireless, what did you mean?
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint!
> >>>
> >>> ----- Reply message -----
> >>> From: "Sheldon, Roger W" <Roger.Sheldon at firstdata.com>
> >>> To: "Omaha Linux User Group" <olug at olug.org>, "staehrmedia at neb.rr.com"
> >>> <staehrmedia at neb.rr.com>
> >>> Subject: [olug] OT - Windows network question
> >>> Date: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:31 pm
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dariks Boot n nuke yeh for sure. As far as wiping the drives and
> >>> reusing the license keys on a different machine? Hmmm I don't think
> >>> Micro$oft allows this unless you have a volume license key or
> >>> something of the sorts. I could be wrong again tho.
> >>>
> >>> Roger Sheldon
> >>> Storage Engineer
> >>> wk 402.777.7901
> >>> cell 402.889.2585
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf
> >>> Of Justin Reiners
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:57 PM
> >>> To: staehrmedia at neb.rr.com; Omaha Linux User Group
> >>> Subject: Re: [olug] OT - Windows network question
> >>>
> >>> boot n nuke for the drives, what kind of question do you have about
> >>> wireless networking? what distances are we talking?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Dan Staehr <staehrmedia at neb.rr.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  Howdy,
> >>>>
> >>>> I realize this is a Linux group but I'm sure some of you can probably
> >>>> steer me the right direction.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm helping out a local non-profit who is moving to a new office. I
> >>>> spent the day yesterday documenting their network and workstations.
> >>>> They are reducing their network size from 8 machines to 4, including
> >>>>
> >>> a file server.
> >>>
> >>>> The server is using Windows Server and VmWare.
> >>>> Fortunately all of the workstations and the server are only a couple
> >>>> of years old. All of the workstations are Win 7 boxes.
> >>>>
> >>>> Question is one of configuring their DSL along with server wirelessly,
> >>>> since their new office won't be easy to pull wire in. I do plan to
> >>>> have a wired connection to at least one of the workstations and to the
> >>>> server and router.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, for the computers they are planning to sell, what is the easiest
> >>>> way to clean the drives, and can the current OS's be reloaded. I'd
> >>>> like to clean the drives, and reload them with Ubuntu maybe.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>>
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