[olug] OT - Windows network question

[Jay Bendon]

If you're already wired, i wouldn't bother converting to wireless.  Wired
has benefits as you could setup a pxe install server and such, even with
windows and manage all the machines from boot to serving.

--Jay


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Dan Staehr <staehrmedia at neb.rr.com> wrote:

> Jason, Sam and all,
>
> I didn't design the network.
>
> The network documentation states DSL modem is setup in Bridge mode with
> the Linksys RVS4000 as the gateway handling the PPoE Authentication.
>
> The volume licenses are for the Office 2007 Suites and the Windows Server.
> It appears the OS for the Workstations, Windows 7 Pro is OEM to each.
>
> The non-profit put together the network as part of a grant project. So all
> of the workstations are the same, Dell Vostro 220s computers.
>
> I don't have details from the non-profit as to whether the systems they
> are planning to sell will be going to another non-profit.
>
> Also, should I go to the trouble to remove the cabling currently in place?
> At least the short runs?
>
> Thanks for your helpful advice, and my apologies for posting in a Linux
> group.
>
>
> Dan Staehr, President
> Staehr Media Services
> 6117 NW 4th Street
> Lincoln, NE 68521-3774
> 402-440-5869
>
> On 11/15/2012 8:02 AM, Jason N wrote:
>
>> Interesting.  I'm guessing you didn't design their network.
>>
>> So no real firewall eh?  Seem completely outside the norm for today's
>> businesses. OK some might argue that the Linksys is a firewall, and that's
>> true - but it's certainly not anywhere near what a typical small business
>> uses.
>>
>> I would not move to a Wireless DSL modem.  If the current Linksys router
>> does not have wireless built into it, I'd replace it with one that does.
>>  Let the ISP provide internet service, don't let them control your network.
>>
>> You can probably skip the switch, dub the hub for sure!  Assuming 4
>> machines it sounds like you'll have something like the following:
>> DSL - Linksys wireless router - Server on port 1, workstation on port 2
>> and wireless to the remaining devices.
>>
>> Are you sure the workstations OS is volume license?  In an environment
>> this small that seems pretty odd.  I wouldn't be surprised if the server OS
>> and the applications (MS Office) were all volume licenses.  If the
>> Workstations have stickers on them with the name of an OS, you can
>> reinstall that OS on the machine and then sell it with no worries.  If the
>> office has Volume licenses for MS Office, etc don't install those before
>> selling the machine.
>>
>> Volume licenses can be transferred, but it's a pain in the rear.  Also if
>> they are non profit licenses, there are limits to whom you can transfer
>> them to.
>>
>>
>> -Jason
>>
>>
>> ---- Dan Staehr <staehrmedia at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>> Some clarification...
>>
>> Currently the network is a wired setup, with the DSL modem, then a
>> linksys router, a switch and hub..I believe a cross over to the server,
>> a Dell PowerEdge, running VMware Esxi for Base OS, and Windows Server
>> 2008 for the server OS.
>>
>> There have been 8 workstations in the past, but the network will shrink
>> to 3, maybe 4 workstations in the new office location which will be
>> much, much smaller, hence the idea to go wireless rather than wired if
>> possible.
>>
>> I might opt for a wireless DSL modem, but run wired to the server. Thus
>> eliminate the router, will I still need the hub and switch setup?
>>
>> As for the current server shares, I would go in and remove the unused
>> shares.
>>
>> The current machines are on a volume license, but I doubt they can
>> legally be transferred to a new owner, but haven't researched that, so
>> its either nuke the drives of the extra computers and offer them without
>> OS or replace with ubuntu or some other Linux distro.
>>
>> I mainly work with PC's and have set up peer to peer, non-server
>> networks for the most part, with shared internet access. So my server
>> based network experience is limited.
>>
>> Dan Staehr, President
>> Staehr Media Services
>> 6117 NW 4th Street
>> Lincoln, NE 68521-3774
>> 402-440-5869
>>
>> On 11/14/2012 6:27 PM, dashrender at cox.net wrote:
>>
>>> If you are not putting windows back on those machines, you can nuke
>>> them however you want, then install ubuntu.
>>>
>>> As for wireless, if the machines are desktops and don't have wireless
>>> cards in them you will have to purchase either internal or USB
>>> wireless adapters for them.
>>>
>>> If the office is small enough you can probably get away with a linkage
>>> wireless access point.  You should disable DHCP on it and not use the
>>> WAN/Internet port.  Have your windows server provide DHCP to all
>>> client machines.
>>>
>>> What are you using for a firewall?
>>>
>>> You mentioned connecting the DSL to wireless, what did you mean?
>>>
>>> Sent from my HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint!
>>>
>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>> From: "Sheldon, Roger W" <Roger.Sheldon at firstdata.com>
>>> To: "Omaha Linux User Group" <olug at olug.org>, "staehrmedia at neb.rr.com"
>>> <staehrmedia at neb.rr.com>
>>> Subject: [olug] OT - Windows network question
>>> Date: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:31 pm
>>>
>>>
>>> Dariks Boot n nuke yeh for sure. As far as wiping the drives and
>>> reusing the license keys on a different machine? Hmmm I don't think
>>> Micro$oft allows this unless you have a volume license key or
>>> something of the sorts. I could be wrong again tho.
>>>
>>> Roger Sheldon
>>> Storage Engineer
>>> wk 402.777.7901
>>> cell 402.889.2585
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Justin Reiners
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:57 PM
>>> To: staehrmedia at neb.rr.com; Omaha Linux User Group
>>> Subject: Re: [olug] OT - Windows network question
>>>
>>> boot n nuke for the drives, what kind of question do you have about
>>> wireless networking? what distances are we talking?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Dan Staehr <staehrmedia at neb.rr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Howdy,
>>>>
>>>> I realize this is a Linux group but I'm sure some of you can probably
>>>> steer me the right direction.
>>>>
>>>> I'm helping out a local non-profit who is moving to a new office. I
>>>> spent the day yesterday documenting their network and workstations.
>>>> They are reducing their network size from 8 machines to 4, including
>>>>
>>> a file server.
>>>
>>>> The server is using Windows Server and VmWare.
>>>> Fortunately all of the workstations and the server are only a couple
>>>> of years old. All of the workstations are Win 7 boxes.
>>>>
>>>> Question is one of configuring their DSL along with server wirelessly,
>>>> since their new office won't be easy to pull wire in. I do plan to
>>>> have a wired connection to at least one of the workstations and to the
>>>> server and router.
>>>>
>>>> Also, for the computers they are planning to sell, what is the easiest
>>>> way to clean the drives, and can the current OS's be reloaded. I'd
>>>> like to clean the drives, and reload them with Ubuntu maybe.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
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