[olug] OT - Windows network question

Sam Flint harmonicnm7h at gmail.com
Thu Nov 15 14:27:46 UTC 2012


In your last sentence you used the word "whom" incorrectly, the proper
wording would be something along the lines of: "Also, if they are
non-profit licenses, there are limits to whom they can be transferred."


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Jason N <dashrender at cox.net> wrote:

> Interesting.  I'm guessing you didn't design their network.
>
> So no real firewall eh?  Seem completely outside the norm for today's
> businesses. OK some might argue that the Linksys is a firewall, and that's
> true - but it's certainly not anywhere near what a typical small business
> uses.
>
> I would not move to a Wireless DSL modem.  If the current Linksys router
> does not have wireless built into it, I'd replace it with one that does.
>  Let the ISP provide internet service, don't let them control your network.
>
> You can probably skip the switch, dub the hub for sure!  Assuming 4
> machines it sounds like you'll have something like the following:
> DSL - Linksys wireless router - Server on port 1, workstation on port 2
> and wireless to the remaining devices.
>
> Are you sure the workstations OS is volume license?  In an environment
> this small that seems pretty odd.  I wouldn't be surprised if the server OS
> and the applications (MS Office) were all volume licenses.  If the
> Workstations have stickers on them with the name of an OS, you can
> reinstall that OS on the machine and then sell it with no worries.  If the
> office has Volume licenses for MS Office, etc don't install those before
> selling the machine.
>
> Volume licenses can be transferred, but it's a pain in the rear.  Also if
> they are non profit licenses, there are limits to whom you can transfer
> them to.
>
>
> -Jason
>
>
> ---- Dan Staehr <staehrmedia at neb.rr.com> wrote:
> Some clarification...
>
> Currently the network is a wired setup, with the DSL modem, then a
> linksys router, a switch and hub..I believe a cross over to the server,
> a Dell PowerEdge, running VMware Esxi for Base OS, and Windows Server
> 2008 for the server OS.
>
> There have been 8 workstations in the past, but the network will shrink
> to 3, maybe 4 workstations in the new office location which will be
> much, much smaller, hence the idea to go wireless rather than wired if
> possible.
>
> I might opt for a wireless DSL modem, but run wired to the server. Thus
> eliminate the router, will I still need the hub and switch setup?
>
> As for the current server shares, I would go in and remove the unused
> shares.
>
> The current machines are on a volume license, but I doubt they can
> legally be transferred to a new owner, but haven't researched that, so
> its either nuke the drives of the extra computers and offer them without
> OS or replace with ubuntu or some other Linux distro.
>
> I mainly work with PC's and have set up peer to peer, non-server
> networks for the most part, with shared internet access. So my server
> based network experience is limited.
>
> Dan Staehr, President
> Staehr Media Services
> 6117 NW 4th Street
> Lincoln, NE 68521-3774
> 402-440-5869
>
> On 11/14/2012 6:27 PM, dashrender at cox.net wrote:
> > If you are not putting windows back on those machines, you can nuke
> > them however you want, then install ubuntu.
> >
> > As for wireless, if the machines are desktops and don't have wireless
> > cards in them you will have to purchase either internal or USB
> > wireless adapters for them.
> >
> > If the office is small enough you can probably get away with a linkage
> > wireless access point.  You should disable DHCP on it and not use the
> > WAN/Internet port.  Have your windows server provide DHCP to all
> > client machines.
> >
> > What are you using for a firewall?
> >
> > You mentioned connecting the DSL to wireless, what did you mean?
> >
> > Sent from my HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint!
> >
> > ----- Reply message -----
> > From: "Sheldon, Roger W" <Roger.Sheldon at firstdata.com>
> > To: "Omaha Linux User Group" <olug at olug.org>, "staehrmedia at neb.rr.com"
> > <staehrmedia at neb.rr.com>
> > Subject: [olug] OT - Windows network question
> > Date: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:31 pm
> >
> >
> > Dariks Boot n nuke yeh for sure. As far as wiping the drives and
> > reusing the license keys on a different machine? Hmmm I don't think
> > Micro$oft allows this unless you have a volume license key or
> > something of the sorts. I could be wrong again tho.
> >
> > Roger Sheldon
> > Storage Engineer
> > wk 402.777.7901
> > cell 402.889.2585
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf
> > Of Justin Reiners
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:57 PM
> > To: staehrmedia at neb.rr.com; Omaha Linux User Group
> > Subject: Re: [olug] OT - Windows network question
> >
> > boot n nuke for the drives, what kind of question do you have about
> > wireless networking? what distances are we talking?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Dan Staehr <staehrmedia at neb.rr.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Howdy,
> > >
> > > I realize this is a Linux group but I'm sure some of you can probably
> > > steer me the right direction.
> > >
> > > I'm helping out a local non-profit who is moving to a new office. I
> > > spent the day yesterday documenting their network and workstations.
> > > They are reducing their network size from 8 machines to 4, including
> > a file server.
> > > The server is using Windows Server and VmWare.
> > > Fortunately all of the workstations and the server are only a couple
> > > of years old. All of the workstations are Win 7 boxes.
> > >
> > > Question is one of configuring their DSL along with server wirelessly,
> > > since their new office won't be easy to pull wire in. I do plan to
> > > have a wired connection to at least one of the workstations and to the
> > > server and router.
> > >
> > > Also, for the computers they are planning to sell, what is the easiest
> > > way to clean the drives, and can the current OS's be reloaded. I'd
> > > like to clean the drives, and reload them with Ubuntu maybe.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
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