[olug] Roku vs Boxee

Sat Mar 17 01:42:57 UTC 2012

Thanks for the links "jman".

I think the only worry would be exceeding Cox's data usage.  Mine is
currently 200 Gb, since cutting my cable I typically average out at
180-190, the few times I've gone over (20-30Gb), Cox hasn't notified
me.

Their AUP really doesn't indicate what they will do if one
continuously exceeds their quota.

Buz

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:49 PM,  <jman at miwire.com> wrote:
>   It all boils down to the copyright of the media.....the authority of
>   the media is not in the hands of the ISP ergo:
>
>   [1]http://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf
>
>   or
>
>   [2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act
>
>   Kevin <sharpestmarble at gmail.com> wrote ..
>
> Based on that email, it sounds like they don't have any problem with
> uploading of free content, such as Linux ISOs.
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 23:51, Steve Busby  wrote:
>> I'm not going to post the complete thread, but here's the final email
>> I got from Cox.  I don't download any movies, just torrent feeds for
>> shows I could record OTA from the big three and Fox; unless I can
>> watch it via Hulu.
>>
>> Quote
>>
>> Dear Subscriber,
>>
>> Thank you for your response. The unauthorized
>> distribution(file-sharing) of copyrighted content, such as music,
>> movies, TV shows and software, is not permitted, even if you purchased
>> or obtained the media from an authorized source.
>>
>> http://www.respectcopyrights.org/
>>
>> Many people are not aware that most file-sharing programs, such as
>> BitTorrent, place downloaded files into a 'shared' directory that will
>> allow others to access these files.  We understand that you were
>> likely unaware of this.  We recommend that users of peer-to-peer
>> networks disable the 'sharing' feature of their client to avoid
>> further complaints.  For additional help or instructions pertaining to
>> disabling the sharing feature, please consult the documentation for
>> your specific software package.  If the material listed has been
>> removed or access has been disabled, then you have done your part to
>> address this matter.  We appreciate your cooperation.
>>
>> If you have additional questions, please let us know.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Cox Customer Security
>>
>> /Unquote
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Dan Linder  wrote:
>>> I too am interested in the "download is legal" answer.  If so, scan
>>> the document so we can all have it.
>>>
>>> A few years ago my brother-in-law got disconnected and the BitTorrents
>>> he was downloading (and presumably re-sharing) were the stated reason.
>>>  Having this doc in hand would be a nice shield.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 08:23, Jason N  wrote:
>>>> Uploads of copywritten content would be forbidden for legal reasons..
>>>>
>>>> What I'm more interested in is, did you get the fact that you can download p
> resumably anything via bit torrent in writting?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---- jman at miwire.com wrote:
>>>>   why are the uploads forbidden?
>>>>
>>>>   Steve Busby  wrote ..
>>>>
>>>> I switched my MythTV to a MacMini running Plex last year when I cancelled ca
> ble.
>>>>
>>>> After several emails with Cox support, I found I can download all the
>>>> torrents I want, as long as I don't upload any content.
>>>>
>>>> So I run "TVShows" to monitor when the torrents are available, it
>>>> feeds them to "Transmission", which does the downloading (but NO
>>>> uploading). Plex monitors the download directory and indexes several
>>>> times a day.
>>>>
>>>> I have to occasionally manually delete watched shows to free up drive
>>>> space, but doing so weekly only takes 10 minutes or so.
>>>>
>>>> BuzB
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Lee M. Meysenburg
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> We have been using Roku boxes since they first came out and are very happy
>>>>> with them. We also use PlayOn  with the Roku to get
>>>>> access to the Web Only content of Hulu as well as many other channels.
>>>>>
>>>>> We used MythTV for years but have since switched to MediaPortal
>>>>>  for DVR, DVD Content, etc. and are not
>>>>> looking back. I always felt like I spent more time making things work and
>>>>> keeping things working with MythTV then actually using it. That isn't to sa
> y
>>>>> MediaPortal doesn't have it's occasional hiccups, but they are far and few
>>>>> between compared to issues with MythTV.
>>>>>
>>>>> My two cents,
>>>>>
>>>>> Lee
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/13/2012 9:07 AM, Shannon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just got a roku box. have and old xp box we had been using so we could
>>>>>> watch netflix on the tv. With the computer we have been watching some
>>>>>> shows
>>>>>> from station websites like CW and TNT but so far I have been unable to
>>>>>> find
>>>>>> a way to watch those with for free on the roku box. So I have not
>>>>>> disconnected the computer yet. though I guess I could play for hulu $8 and
>>>>>> $9 for netflix..  its starting to add up.. going to be playing cable
>>>>>> prices
>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/why-hulu-plus-sucks-and-why-you-should
> -us
>>>> e-it-anyway
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shannon
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