[olug] starting broadband ISP, any suggestions?

Mon Aug 20 05:48:13 UTC 2012

Yes, I do plan on blocking the defaults, an unblocking users as needed.

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Kevin <sharpestmarble at gmail.com> wrote:

> Cox firewalls off 80, 25, & 135-139. I think that they would unblock that
> for a business customer who pays for a static IP.
>
> I don't know what the latest and greatest in the networking world is,
> although you probably don't need top of the line.
> On Aug 20, 2012 12:38 AM, "Justin Reiners" <justin at hotlinesinc.com> wrote:
>
> > Ohh, touche, I guess on cox and such everyone is on the same network (for
> > the most part), just firewalled on the client side (we hope :) ) so you
> > think regular off the shelf (meaning cisco and such, not linksys or
> > netgear) routers and switches. good good. My boss has checked on his
> pipe,
> > can get it for about 9 grand a month, (1Gigabit, multiple fiber drops
> > already exist at his tower.)
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Kevin <sharpestmarble at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > What if some business that you provide service to wants to contact some
> > > other business you provide service to? i.e. A small business that hosts
> > > their own website or mail server?
> > > On Aug 20, 2012 12:23 AM, "Justin Reiners" <justin at hotlinesinc.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The upstream bandwidth will be fiber, 1 gigabit, already priced. The
> > > users
> > > > will be business users, requiring at least 50/50, or whatever they
> > need.
> > > > their will be 100Mb users as well. I would like all users
> (businesses)
> > IP
> > > > to be segregated for security reasons. all businesses will need
> static
> > > > public IPs. Last mile will be microwave.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Kevin <sharpestmarble at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > What is your upstream bandwidth like? Fiber? From who? They are the
> > > > people
> > > > > you'll need to buy your IPs from. You don't need to buy a public IP
> > for
> > > > > everyone, just use NAT(assuming they're home users), although there
> > are
> > > > > some who would take issue with that. Some of those who would take
> > issue
> > > > are
> > > > > people of this list.
> > > > >
> > > > > Routing could be done using a Linux box. You'd need multiple
> > > interfaces,
> > > > > and you'd want it to be redundant, although you'd want that as part
> > of
> > > > any
> > > > > setup you would use. Play with iptables some to get it set up and
> > > running
> > > > > properly.
> > > > >
> > > > > What kind of networks will you be running that you'll want to keep
> > > > > separate?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Aug 19, 2012 11:57 PM, "Justin Reiners" <justin at hotlinesinc.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hey eveyone, weird question, I have done my googling, to no
> avail.
> > I
> > > > was
> > > > > > wondering if anyone here works for an ISP, or has the
> understanding
> > > of
> > > > > > first time setup. My boss have come to me with a task, He is
> > looking
> > > > for
> > > > > > starting an ISP in his home town, as there are no, 100MB+ isps in
> > the
> > > > > area,
> > > > > > connection type is fixed wireless, or microwave. He owns a tower
> in
> > > > IA, I
> > > > > > cannot say where exactly it is located because he hosts things
> for
> > > the
> > > > > CIA,
> > > > > > FBI and such. He also has fiber to the building, unused at the
> > > moment,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > he also has all the capital he needs to get it going. I have some
> > > > > > questions, He wants to start with 1Gb of bandwidth, and knows
> > plenty
> > > of
> > > > > > businesses in the area that are looking to go faster.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. When the fiber is installed, will we be left with a 1Gigabit
> > > > Ethernet
> > > > > > port I route off of?
> > > > > > 2. I assume we will need to buy public IPs. any idea on the
> costs?
> > > > > > 3. What types of switches and routers do you recommend, (hoping
> it
> > is
> > > > > just
> > > > > > ethernet) (number of users will be around 20 at first, then the
> sky
> > > is
> > > > > the
> > > > > > limit.)
> > > > > > 4. can the routing be done using a linux box?
> > > > > > 5. Can multiple users use the same directional antenna?
> > > > > > 6. How can we keep networks seperate?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any help will be appreciated. I am hoping someone in the group
> > works
> > > > with
> > > > > > this type of thing. google has not been much help, I find a lot
> of
> > > OLD
> > > > > ISP
> > > > > > pages, talking of dialup modems of such. lol.
> > > > > >
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