[olug] Heart attack after 11.04 upgrade

[T. J. Brumfield]

Windows decided to reinvent the Start menu with Vista, because it looks
nicer in a screenshot. Everyone wants a pretty interface, but it takes
longer to browse to what you want. Microsoft said, use search instead (even
though it is slow and doesn't work well).

Sadly, KDE ended up using a similar menu in KDE 4. It looks nicer, but it is
slower to navigate. I don't know why we have to move away from classic menu
structures. People argue that newer app launchers have search, which makes
them better, but my old KDE 3 Start menu also had search built in.

Mac OS X uses a dock instead, which works well if you only ever use a small
handful of apps. But it obviously doesn't cover all use cases.

Gnome 3 and Unity both try to present new solutoins for finding and
launching applications, but I don't like either approach. Honestly, I still
think the best solution is a classic Start Menu with search built-in. But
most days I find myself just hitting Alt-F2, launching Krunner and then
typing in what I want.

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:28 AM, John Serafino <lzrblade at gmail.com> wrote:

> While there are a some things I don't like about the new GUI, there are
> also
> a few things I do like. The default "app" search is something I have gotten
> used to and like in some ways. I do not, however, like the fuzziness of the
> sidebar. I honestly don't much care if the bar is on the bottom or side,
> it's just that it seems to cleverly hide itself whenever I want to be using
> it and get in the way when I'm doing something else. The top bar being
> "window relative" is something I can live with, but I probably wouldn't
> have
> recommended the change.
>
> I'm liking Ubuntu less and less as it becomes more "use friendly" and less
> flexible/powerful. I'm still trying out new distro's from time to time,
> although I haven't tried mint since back when it was just Ubuntu with a
> Windoze Vista style menu. I may give it a go again, as I still want
> something Debian based. Apt-get not being expendable has already been
> mentioned.
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:14 AM, George De Bruin <sndchaser at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
>  > Friends do not let (nor encourage) friends to use LXDE.  Do you really
> hate
> > Ben that much? :)
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 8:57 AM, T. J. Brumfield <enderandrew at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > LXDE is also an option for those of you looking for a lightweight
> > desktop.
> > >
> > > If you looked at KDE 2 years ago using Ubuntu repositories, I'm sure it
> > > wasn't pretty. Kubuntu had the worst, most broken implementation of KDE
> > 4.x
> > > out there. It has gotten better. It is certainly worth looking at.
> > >
> > > The problem is that Ubuntu treats KDE like a second-class citizen, so a
> > lot
> > > of the features they develop for Ubuntu never make it to Kubuntu.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Jon Larsen <jon at jonlarsen.us> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just curious - did you install the gnome3 packages after you upgraded
> > or
> > > > are you using the default Unity packages?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 06/27/2011 11:15 PM, Obi-Wan wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I just finished upgrading my desktop box from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04
> > > >> today, and the first time I logged in, I almost went into cardiac
> > > >> arrest.  I can't express how badly I hate the new Gnome environment.
> > > >> What are my options?  Is it possible to reconfigure this new POS
> > > >> to behave like the previous version?  Has KDE gotten any more user
> > > >> friendly in the 2 years since I last gave up on it?  Are there other
> > > >> viable options?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
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