[olug] Google Fiber home Internet sevice RFI

[Charles Bird]

I wonder if the state laws are what is preventing the establishment of a
free exchange here? aka public peering point, with a non-profit that has
nothing but a few badass switches and just charges a port fee to pay for the
switch and power.

I'd love to get more info from google on the technical aspects of this
project, like the intended infrastructure...like are they going to use
existing facilities? build their own lil PoPs?

Speaking of Google, I got an interview in an hour with them, I gotta think
about how to express how many golf balls can fit in a school bus LOL! Simple
formula is all they want I'm assuming.





On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:46 AM, T. J. Brumfield <enderandrew at gmail.com>wrote:

> My wife is pretty politically involved. We're friends with the head of
> the Douglas County Repulican Party, and we've been known to rub elbows
> with the Republican politicans in the state.
>
> I would be happy to talk to politicians, but I would need to know
> specific statues that need to be changed.
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Dave Rowe <dave at roweware.com> wrote:
> > This would be big if we could get someone with enough clout to act as
> > a front man.  You can be sure that the telcos, ISPs will throw plenty
> > of lobbyist dollars at this to shut it down.
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Dan Linder <dan at linder.org> wrote:
> >> Maybe this is where we could add some benefit to the state at large
> >> while attracting Googles attention.
> >>
> >> If we lobby our state and/or federal legislators to allow for this, or
> >> drop the existing law(s), then we'd get Googles attention AND show
> >> that the state as a whole is trying to make things right for true
> >> competition.
> >>
> >> Imagine the good press that the senators, governor, mayors, etc would
> >> get if they were able to claim they helped bring in this high-speed
> >> network their constituants.
> >>
> >> Or on the flip side, someone running for office would get a big boost
> >> if they were the person that was a high-profile proponent of removing
> >> additional govenrment regulation.
> >>
> >> Either way you spin it, it plays well with the "smaller government"
> >> that is very popular here in Nebraska.
> >>
> >> Anyone know the law(s) specifically that we would need to have repealed?
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 16:24, James Ringler <jringler at plainspower.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Sam Tetherow wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> There isn't any state law that I am aware of that prohibits you from
> >>>> laying your own infrastructure.  There are hoops that have to be
> jumped
> >>>> through to get ROW from the municipality, but part of the deregulation
> of
> >>>> telco services was for just this purpose.
> >>>>
> >>>> I know for instance that Three Rivers Telephone "coppered over" Qwest
> in
> >>>> Ainsworth.  Unite fiber in Lincoln has their own fiber loop that is
> outside
> >>>> of Windstream's network.  Time Warner's cable network is outside of
> >>>> Windstream in Lincoln, yet both offer voice and internet.  I also know
> that
> >>>> for a while Lincoln was trying to find another cable provider to
> compete
> >>>> against TW.  The reason that it doesn't happen very often is that it
> is
> >>>> horribly expensive to do it and if you don't have a captive audience
> (the
> >>>> only provider) it is hard to make the numbers work.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sam Tetherow
> >>>> Sandhills Wireless
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> They passed a law about 10 years ago that prohibited municipal entities
> from
> >>> becoming an ISP.    Windstream and Time Warner lobbied for the law
> since TW
> >>> was in the process of launching Road Runner.   At the time, LES had the
> >>> entire city laced with fiber and TW was worried that if LES could light
> it
> >>> up, TW would lose their back side.   The law never was lifted off the
> books.
> >>>  At that time we were working on fiber to the desktop in Waverly..
>  since
> >>> they were booming with industry development.   Our plans were quickly
> >>> shattered
> >>>
> >>> Here's a link that shows Nebraska being on the ban.
> >>>
> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/01/municipal-fiber-needs-more-fdr-localism-fewer-state-bans.ars
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