[olug] Community Colo Project
Charles.Bird
charles.bird at powerdnn.com
Fri Apr 3 13:01:34 UTC 2009
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Dan Clough <dclough at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hah, I'll throw these out mainly because we won't need to buy new domains:
>
> MiniARPA Networks (I have miniarpa.net)
> RedTorch Networks (I have redtorch.org)
>
> I've always wanted to start a business, so I've registered quite a few
> domains that I thought sounded cool or just plain wanted... with the
> newest addition being clough.tel! ;)
>
I have ColdIsle.com .net and .org
I thought it was a cool name, no pun intended. :D
>
> Will Langford wrote:
> > OLCOLO - omaha linux colo!OLUC - omana linux user colo
> >
> > j/k
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Dan Clough <dclough at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Sounds like a reasonable possibility. Could you provide some
> >> information on your company or a URL? Something in the IT sector would
> >> be best, mainly because "John's Floral Arrangements and Datacenter"
> >> doesn't flow quite as nicely as I'd like it to.
> >>
> >> David Walker wrote:
> >>> 03601- at bxe1115.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <
> >> 49D50F08.5060109 at brutsche.us> <49D5102B.9070006 at roweware.com> <
> >> 49D512E9.7070608 at gmail.com>
> >>> In-Reply-To: <49D512E9.7070608 at gmail.com>
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> >>> One possibility is running it through my company. Obviously we would
> >>> want to make sure that we structured everything financially so the risk
> >>> to my company would be low and so that there would not be an undue load
> >>> on us, but we have an accounting and billing system in place and we
> have
> >>> been around for 9 years this summer.
> >>>
> >>> I do believe that proper governance and accountability are essential to
> >>> this venture. For all of the "community" aspects, such as lower cost,
> >>> relaxed specs on rackmount vs tower, there definitely needs to be an
> >>> organized structure to keep everything going.
> >>>
> >>> Setting up and LLC is not too hard but someone would have to manage it
> >>> and it would have to be determined who held how many shares and what
> >>> that meant. Someone would definitely have to be responsible for
> billing
> >>> and for enforcing the billing requirements
> >>>
> >>> Dan Clough wrote:
> >>>> Figuring out a pricing structure is a priority at this point in time,
> >>>> but that's currently on hold until we find out what the damage is for
> >>>> the Pinpoint cage and power circuits. With all the pledges of
> equipment
> >>>> we've seen so far, I doubt our expenses will exceed that of the cage
> >>>> space, power and bandwidth.
> >>>>
> >>>> While we're on the subject of finances, we *really* need to decide
> what
> >>>> we're going to do about legal entities. I've been juggling ideas
> which
> >>>> include forming our own nonprofit corporation, piggybacking on another
> >>>> organization or just dumping it on one person's shoulders. The last
> one
> >>>> is an obvious no-no as I doubt anyone would want to take sole fiscal
> >>>> responsibility of the venture if it went tits-up. Ideas?
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave Rowe wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Phil Brutsche wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> People should be allowed to bring in anything they want (given
> >>>>>> reasonable hardware constraints - ie 4U or smaller rackmount) as
> long
> >> as
> >>>>>> they maintain their machine(s) properly and bay their bill.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm just making sure people are performing reality checks, we
> >> shouldn't
> >>>>>> be getting any grandiose ideas and ordering a 50Mbps line under the
> >>>>>> assumption that there will be that many "clients".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dan Clough wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Well, that's just it. Hopefully it won't just be us, hopefully we
> >>>>>>> can get people who want colocation or even local web hosting but
> >>>>>>> can't find it... Even if it means inviting the WUG in... ;)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We want enough capacity for us to fill and for any other "clients"
> >>>>>>> we'll hopefully bring on board. 20Meg should be fine.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> With that in mind, does someone who has an idea (ballpark is even
> >>>>> valuable) as to what the monthly cost (+ setup? ie, to help cover the
> >>>>> Cogent installation?) per U is? Then, people who might use it can
> >>>>> evaluate (reply to the list) with what they'd want (no obligation).
> >>>>> Then, you'd have a better idea of how big the client base is, and
> what
> >>>>> the estimated usage would be.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've throughly enjoyed following this, and see myself as a potential
> >>>>> 'client' of this, but without knowing the monthly cost, I'm not fully
> >>>>> 'sold' on it.
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> >>> One possibility is running it through my company. Obviously we
> >> would
> >>> want to make sure that we structured everything financially so the risk
> >>> to my company would be low and so that there would not be an undue load
> >>> on us, but we have an accounting and billing system in place and we
> >>> have been around for 9 years this summer.<br>
> >>> <br>
> >>> I do believe that proper governance and accountability are essential to
> >>> this venture. For all of the "community" aspects, such as lower
> >> cost,
> >>> relaxed specs on rackmount vs tower, there definitely needs to be an
> >>> organized structure to keep everything going.<br>
> >>> <br>
> >>> Setting up and LLC is not too hard but someone would have to manage it
> >>> and it would have to be determined who held how many shares and what
> >>> that meant. Someone would definitely have to be responsible for
> >>> billing and for enforcing the billing requirements<br>
> >>> <br>
> >>> Dan Clough wrote:
> >>> <blockquote cite="mid:49D512E9.7070608 at gmail.com<mid%3A49D512E9.7070608 at gmail.com>
> <mid%3A49D512E9.7070608 at gmail.com <mid%253A49D512E9.7070608 at gmail.com>>"
> >> type="cite">
> >>> <pre wrap="">Figuring out a pricing structure is a priority at this
> >> point in time,
> >>> but that's currently on hold until we find out what the damage is for
> >>> the Pinpoint cage and power circuits. With all the pledges of
> equipment
> >>> we've seen so far, I doubt our expenses will exceed that of the cage
> >>> space, power and bandwidth.
> >>>
> >>> While we're on the subject of finances, we *really* need to decide what
> >>> we're going to do about legal entities. I've been juggling ideas which
> >>> include forming our own nonprofit corporation, piggybacking on another
> >>> organization or just dumping it on one person's shoulders. The last
> one
> >>> is an obvious no-no as I doubt anyone would want to take sole fiscal
> >>> responsibility of the venture if it went tits-up. Ideas?
> >>>
> >>> Dave Rowe wrote:
> >>> </pre>
> >>> <blockquote type="cite">
> >>> <pre wrap="">Phil Brutsche wrote:
> >>> </pre>
> >>> <blockquote type="cite">
> >>> <pre wrap="">People should be allowed to bring in anything they
> >> want (given
> >>> reasonable hardware constraints - ie 4U or smaller rackmount) as long
> as
> >>> they maintain their machine(s) properly and bay their bill.
> >>>
> >>> I'm just making sure people are performing reality checks, we shouldn't
> >>> be getting any grandiose ideas and ordering a 50Mbps line under the
> >>> assumption that there will be that many "clients".
> >>>
> >>> Dan Clough wrote:
> >>> </pre>
> >>> <blockquote type="cite">
> >>> <pre wrap="">Well, that's just it. Hopefully it won't just be
> >> us, hopefully we
> >>> can get people who want colocation or even local web hosting but
> >>> can't find it... Even if it means inviting the WUG in... ;)
> >>>
> >>> We want enough capacity for us to fill and for any other "clients"
> >>> we'll hopefully bring on board. 20Meg should be fine.
> >>> </pre>
> >>> </blockquote>
> >>> </blockquote>
> >>> <pre wrap="">With that in mind, does someone who has an idea
> >> (ballpark is even
> >>> valuable) as to what the monthly cost (+ setup? ie, to help cover the
> >>> Cogent installation?) per U is? Then, people who might use it can
> >>> evaluate (reply to the list) with what they'd want (no obligation).
> >>> Then, you'd have a better idea of how big the client base is, and what
> >>> the estimated usage would be.
> >>>
> >>> I've throughly enjoyed following this, and see myself as a potential
> >>> 'client' of this, but without knowing the monthly cost, I'm not fully
> >>> 'sold' on it.
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> OLUG mailing list
> >>> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:OLUG at olug.org">
> >> OLUG at olug.org</a>
> >>> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="
> >> https://lists.olug.org/mailman/listinfo/olug">
> >> https://lists.olug.org/mailman/listinfo/olug</a>
> >>> </pre>
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