[olug] im logging

[Tony Reinke]

I completely agree with Dan.  Parents need to be... parents.  You are
not their friends, you are their authority figure.  Letting your kids
know what you expect from them is important.  The second part of that
is the enforcing it.  This is the sucky part of parenting.  But then
again, you are the parent and you want your kids to understand
consequences.

Tony

On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Dan Linder <dan at linder.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Luke -Jr <luke at dashjr.org> wrote:
>
>  > On Saturday 01 March 2008, Kelly Williams wrote:
>  > > that would work but she is using Windoz just looking for a program to
>  > > work in the background because his kids knows how to disable logging in
>  > > msn messager..
>  >
>  > "If you disable logging, you can't use the computer anymore."
>  >
>
>  <soapbox>
>  Excuse me for a minute while I continue to take this down a slightly
>  different path than was originally requested.  I think the original poster
>  was looking for a simple logging utility (which others have discussed).  I
>  wanted to put something out here that might get Google'd by some future
>  parent and give them some easy-to-implement non-technical options.
>
>  I agree with Luke-Jr and others who have recommended a more non-technical
>  option.  Regardless of the logging method chosen, here are the basic
>  recommendations that my wife (an 8th grade teacher) gives to parents during
>  conferences:
>  1: Keep the computers in a very public part of the house: living room,
>  family room, rec-room, etc.  DON'T let the kids have their own computer in
>  their bedrooms.
>  2: When the kids are on the computer, keep tabs on them: ask "who are you
>  talking with?", "what are you discussing?", "what website is that?", etc.
>  No, don't grill them for every detail, but let them know that you are there.
>  3: Set limits on when they can use the computer.  Our daughter can't use the
>  computer for fun/entertainment unless she has her homework done.  She also
>  has to ask for permission to use it.  She's a first grader after all -- you
>  can modify this as they get more mature (*MATURE*, not just *OLDER*).  We
>  also don't allow it to be used when she is suppose to be in bed sleeping --
>  again, not a concern as much with our child, but older children might sneak
>  down to chat with others after hours.
>  4: Remind them of appropriate and inappropriate sites and on-line
>  activities.
>  5: If they are old enough to purchase their own computer (and try to use the
>  "it's mine, I'll do what I want" argument), just change "computer" to "car"
>  or other non-technical object.  Just because they might have purchased their
>  own car doesn't mean that you'll allow them to drive it all night and/or do
>  "secret" things with it.
>  6: We've lumped the computer in with the TV and telephone as the first group
>  of items to be restricted when punished.  Be prepared to enforce it.
>  </soapbox>
>
>  Dan
>
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