[olug] OLUG Digest, Vol 54, Issue 15
Chad Homan
choman at gmail.com
Fri Aug 17 16:55:55 UTC 2007
Curious if anyone has a ~120 GB 5400 RPM HDD, need one for a project :)
I will be at InstallFest for a bit as well if that helps with the hook up.
Contact me off line
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Server (Kelly Williams)
> 2. Re: Server (Dan Clough)
> 3. Re: (Relatively) Nearby Colocation Centers (Shawn Mattingly)
> 4. Re: (Relatively) Nearby Colocation Centers (Sean Kelly)
> 5. Re: (Relatively) Nearby Colocation Centers (Dave Thacker)
> 6. Re: (Relatively) Nearby Colocation Centers (Obi-Wan)
> 7. Re: (Relatively) Nearby Colocation Centers (Jay Swackhamer)
> 8. Re: email a binary file (uuencode no longer popular?) (Jay Hannah)
> 9. Re: Server (Rob Townley)
> 10. Re: Lunch Reminder: Friday Aug 17 11:30 AM (Jon Larsen)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Kelly Williams" <kwilliams at nethtc.net>
> To: olug at olug.org
> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:13:52 -0500
> Subject: [olug] Server
> Any one has a server that they what to rid of. I have a
> church that there server just crashed windoz 2003. if any
> one has one it would be great...
>
>
> Kelly Williams
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Dan Clough <dclough at gmail.com>
> To: Omaha Linux User Group <olug at olug.org>
> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:33:22 -0500
> Subject: Re: [olug] Server
> What sort of hardware specifications are you looking for? Windows
> Server 2003 can run (and crash) on anything from ancient Pentiums to the
> top-of-the-line, hundred-thousand-dollar 64-bit enterprise systems.
>
> Talk to Jay at Reboot The User. He stocks alot of used servers that are
> very stable and reliable (Although a server's only as stable as the
> operating system... switch to CentOS.) You can see some of the things
> he has in stock at http://www.reboottheuser.com.
>
> Dan
>
> Kelly Williams wrote:
> > Any one has a server that they what to rid of. I have a
> > church that there server just crashed windoz 2003. if any
> > one has one it would be great...
> >
> >
> > Kelly Williams
> > _______________________________________________
> > OLUG mailing list
> > OLUG at olug.org
> > http://lists.olug.org/mailman/listinfo/olug
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Shawn Mattingly <smattin at mimezine.org>
> To: Omaha Linux User Group <olug at olug.org>
> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:11:19 -0500
> Subject: Re: [olug] (Relatively) Nearby Colocation Centers
> heh, I never asked but they are probably fairly competitive with
> something like First National. I've not made it into Qwest's colo
> center yet but Sprint's facility has generator power courtesy of 3 of
> the largest Cummins diesel engines I have ever seen, and you have the
> comfort of being in the same building that hooks Omaha into Sprint's
> national network. In both datacenters you are paying extra for physical
> security, reliable bandwidth and extremely redundant facilities...if you
> just have one server that you play around with and host a couple of
> websites for friends and can handle a moderate amount of downtime, First
> National, Sprint and Qwest probably are going to be priced out of reach
>
> Phil Brutsche wrote:
> > Shawn Mattingly wrote:
> >
> >> Sprint and Qwest will colo stuff for you too but you have to have a
> >> relationship with one of their sales reps or know who to talk to to get
> >> a quote...the monthlies are not going to be posted on their web pages.
> >>
> >
> > Wouldn't they be in the "if you gotta ask..." price bracket?
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Sean Kelly <smkelly at zombie.org>
> To: Omaha Linux User Group <olug at olug.org>
> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:19:59 -0500
> Subject: Re: [olug] (Relatively) Nearby Colocation Centers
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 11:22:50PM -0500, Dan Clough wrote:
> > It seems that Jay at RTU is ending his colocation service at the end of
> > August, which leaves me with no affordable place to go in the Omaha
> > area, or for that matter, anywhere closer than a 4-hour drive. I've got
> > a 2U Compaq DL380 (I'd put another one up if I could afford it) that
> > needs a new home, stable power and 1-2Mbps of bandwidth. Can anyone
> > suggest a reliable colocation center? I'm willing to go as far west as
> > Lincoln and as far east as Kansas City if that's what it takes.
> >
> > I have a feeling that there are a few others who are in this situation,
> > so in the spirit of nerdy groupthink I'll post the quotes I've found so
> > far.
>
> Where I work, we've begun to make heavy use of VMware ESX in order to
> consolidate hundreds of Windows and Linux hosts onto four larger IBM x3850
> servers. I'm estimating that we'll be able to fit somewhere around
> 100-150 VMs on these hosts under the right conditions. This allows us to
> pool storage, CPU, memory, and networking resources and not have islands
> of
> resources out there across a bunch of hosts.
>
> Why am I bringing this up? There seems to be a lot of talk on this list
> lately about people looking for colocation for fairly low end systems.
> Maybe we should all consider looking at chipping in togehter on a colo'd
> server or two running VMware Server (the free product), Xen, or something
> similar?
>
> I've actually considered doing this with a group of friends. Buying a colo
> server and splitting it up among ten or fifteen of us. That would make the
> prices tolerable, depending on where it was colocated. Another advantage
> of
> virtualized solutions is that you don't need physical access to access the
> console since the console is nothing but software. You just need somebody
> to manage the underlying hypervisor.
>
> --
> Sean Kelly | PGP KeyID: D2E5E296
> smkelly at smkelly.org | http://www.smkelly.org
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Dave Thacker <dthacker9 at cox.net>
> To: Omaha Linux User Group <olug at olug.org>
> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:23:19 -0500
> Subject: Re: [olug] (Relatively) Nearby Colocation Centers
> On Thursday 16 August 2007 13:01, Brian Roberson wrote:
> > The OLUG server is in the same boat... I have really been thinking about
> > just doing the cox business (10/1) solution for the house... It runs
> > ~115/month or 12/1.5 @ 159 MRC.... Or I am open if anyone want's to jump
> > on the bandwagon and find power/cooling for a cox connection to be
> > shared... any takers?
>
> We have a Cox business connection at my wife's office. I run a few very
> low
> traffic domains off of the connection, and since I've only got a few boxes
> and they're not business critical, I do not have special cooling/UPS. If
> OLUG is willing to pay for an additional IP(s) and a bit of power, I've
> got a
> bit of space. Contact me off list or talk to me at installfest.
>
> Dave
>
> >
> > > It seems that Jay at RTU is ending his colocation service at the end
> of
> > > August, which leaves me with no affordable place to go in the Omaha
> > > area, or for that matter, anywhere closer than a 4-hour drive. I've
> got
> > > a 2U Compaq DL380 (I'd put another one up if I could afford it) that
> > > needs a new home, stable power and 1-2Mbps of bandwidth. Can anyone
> > > suggest a reliable colocation center? I'm willing to go as far west
> as
> > > Lincoln and as far east as Kansas City if that's what it takes.
> > >
> > > I have a feeling that there are a few others who are in this
> situation,
> > > so in the spirit of nerdy groupthink I'll post the quotes I've found
> so
> > > far.
> > >
> > > RivTel Networks:
> > > Location: Omaha
> > > Pricing:
> > > -$100/m/Rack Unit, $50 Setup per U
> > > -1Mbps included per U
> > > -2 IPs
> > > -Business-hours Access
> > >
> > > CoSentry:
> > > Location: Bellevue
> > > Pricing:
> > > -Around $400 per 1/3 Rack
> > > -$330/Mbps for peak-hours
> > > -No limit on IPs with ARIN Justification
> > > -All-hours Escorted Access
> > >
> > > Binary Networks
> > > Location: Lincoln
> > > Pricing:
> > > -$150/month, up to 4U
> > > -No disclosed Mbps quote, just "From $20 per month"
> > > -Unknown IP Policy
> > > -Undisclosed Access Policy
> > >
> > > First National Technical Solutions (FNTS)
> > > Location: Omaha
> > > Pricing: No pricing, just a funny story. I called their data center
> and
> > > the poor fellow I talked to had no idea what a "U" was, or if they
> > > provided something called "colocation". They're the IBM of internet
> > > services.
> > >
> > > Any other ideas or locations?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dan
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > OLUG mailing list
> > > OLUG at olug.org
> > > http://lists.olug.org/mailman/listinfo/olug
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OLUG mailing list
> > OLUG at olug.org
> > http://lists.olug.org/mailman/listinfo/olug
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: obiwan at jedi.com (Obi-Wan)
> To: olug at olug.org
> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:44:05 -0500 (CDT)
> Subject: Re: [olug] (Relatively) Nearby Colocation Centers
> Internet Nebraska's NOC in Lincoln doesn't really promote the
> service, but they will co-locate for prices similar to those that
> were originally posted. You can find the appropriate contact info
> at http://www.INebraska.com
>
> I go back & forth about what to do about this. I also have a DL380 to
> which I'd like to provide faster public access, since I host lots of
> images from there. Alas, I also upload all of these images myself from
> home, so relocating the server upstream only solves half my problem.
> It sucks that Lincoln doesn't have any home Internet offerings anywhere
> near as fast/cheap as Cox provides in Omaha. 1 Mbps uplink for just
> $100/mo? I'm drooling. For now, I'm still living with my fleet of
> HP/Compaq servers in my 42U rack in my basement, all served up over my
> dinky 384 Kbps uplink. I'm about to run a second 20A circuit over to
> that corner to handle the power needs. I'm tired of my UPSes blowing
> the breaker every time a machine powers up.
>
> --
> Ben "Obi-Wan" Hollingsworth obiwan at jedi.com
> The stuff of earth competes for the allegiance I owe only to the
> Giver of all good things, so if I stand, let me stand on the
> promise that You will pull me through. -- Rich Mullins
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jay Swackhamer <Jay at RebootTheUser.com>
> To: olug at olug.org
> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 07:58:25 -0500
> Subject: Re: [olug] (Relatively) Nearby Colocation Centers
> First national should be taken off of the list. They are no longer
> providing co-location without services. So unless you want to pay the
> costs for them to manage your OS and apps, they are out.......
>
> --
> Jay Swackhamer
> Reboot The User
> 13416 A Street
> Omaha, NE 68144
> 402-933-6449
> Hours: 6pm-11pm Tues-Fri, 4pm-9pm Sat.
> http://www.reboottheuser.com
> http://www.cafepress.com/rtu
>
>
> Quoting Shawn Mattingly <smattin at mimezine.org>:
>
> > heh, I never asked but they are probably fairly competitive with
> > something like First National. I've not made it into Qwest's colo
> > center yet but Sprint's facility has generator power courtesy of 3 of
> > the largest Cummins diesel engines I have ever seen, and you have the
> > comfort of being in the same building that hooks Omaha into Sprint's
> > national network. In both datacenters you are paying extra for physical
> > security, reliable bandwidth and extremely redundant facilities...if you
> > just have one server that you play around with and host a couple of
> > websites for friends and can handle a moderate amount of downtime, First
> > National, Sprint and Qwest probably are going to be priced out of reach
> >
> > Phil Brutsche wrote:
> >> Shawn Mattingly wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sprint and Qwest will colo stuff for you too but you have to have a
> >>> relationship with one of their sales reps or know who to talk to to
> get
> >>> a quote...the monthlies are not going to be posted on their web pages.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Wouldn't they be in the "if you gotta ask..." price bracket?
> >>
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > OLUG mailing list
> > OLUG at olug.org
> > http://lists.olug.org/mailman/listinfo/olug
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net>
> To: Omaha Linux User Group <olug at olug.org>
> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:30:58 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [olug] email a binary file (uuencode no longer popular?)
>
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, Noel Leistad wrote:
> > never tried the uuencode thing, found this script which I sort of hacked
> > w/ vars to suit... $1 who, $2 what
>
> Thanks for that. Un(?)fortunately I'm legally and morally obligated to
> use Perl instead of shell scripts. :)
>
> I just saw the "Grep Sed Question" thread from June... Stan Coleman: If
> you still need Perly help you could post to our mailing list:
>
> Omaha Perl Mongers: http://omaha.pm.org
>
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, Brian Roberson wrote:
> > If you have mutt:
> > mutt -a file.pdf jay at jays.net < /dev/null
>
> Ahh, thanks. mutt does happen to be on this box. Anyone else notice the
> slow disappearance of default installs of pine? Am I the only uuencode +
> pine user left? So alone... -whimper-
>
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, Sam Tetherow wrote:
> > I think yydecode has replaced uudecode at least in the usenet world. The
> > "crazy kids" use the little paperclip button nowadays ;)
>
> Huh. yydecode isn't on this box by default.
>
> I don't know why PuTTY doesn't let me click a paperclip when I'm ssh'd
> into a random Linux machine somewhere. :( -grin-
>
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, Luke -Jr wrote:
> > base64 file.pdf | ... should work
>
> base64 isn't on this machine either...
>
> Hmm... My favorite tools aren't in default installs anymore. Apparently
> I'm a fossil. (32 tomorrow. ack! somebody put me down!)
>
> j
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Rob Townley" <rob.townley at gmail.com>
> To: "Omaha Linux User Group" <olug at olug.org>
> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:40:51 -0500
> Subject: Re: [olug] Server
> 2nd RTU
> He has many high-end previously owned systems with hardware raid.
>
> u may want to use CentOS 4.5 instead of the latest 5
>
> On 8/16/07, Dan Clough <dclough at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > What sort of hardware specifications are you looking for? Windows
> > Server 2003 can run (and crash) on anything from ancient Pentiums to the
> > top-of-the-line, hundred-thousand-dollar 64-bit enterprise systems.
> >
> > Talk to Jay at Reboot The User. He stocks alot of used servers that are
> > very stable and reliable (Although a server's only as stable as the
> > operating system... switch to CentOS.) You can see some of the things
> > he has in stock at http://www.reboottheuser.com.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > Kelly Williams wrote:
> > > Any one has a server that they what to rid of. I have a
> > > church that there server just crashed windoz 2003. if any
> > > one has one it would be great...
> > >
> > >
> > > Kelly Williams
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > OLUG mailing list
> > > OLUG at olug.org
> > > http://lists.olug.org/mailman/listinfo/olug
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OLUG mailing list
> > OLUG at olug.org
> > http://lists.olug.org/mailman/listinfo/olug
> >
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jon Larsen <relayer at levania.org>
> To: Omaha Linux User Group <olug at olug.org>
> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:52:57 -0500 (CDT)
> Subject: Re: [olug] Lunch Reminder: Friday Aug 17 11:30 AM
>
> Another reminder - it's today!
>
> I'll be at the west location.
>
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Jon Larsen wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 07:02:59 -0500 (CDT)
> > From: Jon Larsen <relayer at levania.org>
> > Reply-To: Omaha Linux User Group <olug at olug.org>
> > To: <olug at olug.org>
> > Subject: [olug] Lunch Reminder: Friday Aug 17 11:30 AM
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Just a reminder that the OLUG Luncheon will take place tomorrow (Friday)
> > August 17th, at 11:30 AM at the following locations:
> >
> > East - King Kong 4409 Dodge St.
> >
> > West - Lola's Deli 11325 Davenport St., south of Dodge on 114th street,
> > east side of the street.
> >
> > Note:
> > The Luncheon is held on the Third Friday of every month at 11:30 AM
> >
> > Links for directions can be found on the OLUG website at the following
> > URL:
> > <
> http://www.olug.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20&Itemid=25
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jon H. Larsen - relayer -at- levania -dot- org
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Chad
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