[olug] Server Farms

[Jay Swackhamer]

It would be humorous if this was the exception to the rule with management.

It's typical that a management group will request a setup and give out a
figure without any requirements.

I'd give them back an estimate including hardware/network/facilities/labor
that fills their budget number. With the caveat that things will change as
requirements change.

i.e.
Quote two racks of Dual-Opteron Servers with 4gig of ram and Fibre channel
cards and Gigabit ethernet, and redundant OS disks. Plus a SAN so that the
disk could be managed separately from the servers, making the servers
disposable(figuratively)

The machines will be equally capable of file serving/database/application
whether it's Linux/BSD/Win


(If OS390 is the requirement, then run in in a virtual machine under Linux)




> The only problem with this.. Is I don't get anymore information, untill
> i can tell them i can do it.
>
> So... It seems without knowing what they want, i can't tell them i can
> do it.
>
> Ok thanks anyways.
>
> Bill Brush wrote:
>
>>Well it's kind of hard to design a solution to a  requirement that isn't
>>defined.
>>
>>If you're talking data storage that means a SAN (especially if you're
>>talking those dollar amounts).  If you're dealing with the government the
>>requirements are going to be spelled out to a fare-thee-well although
>> they
>>may not necessarily "work".
>>
>>I think you need about a metric ass-ton more info before you start
>> worrying
>>about design.
>>
>>Bill
>>
>>olug-bounces at olug.org wrote on 02/25/2004 12:45:33 PM:
>>
>>
>>
>>>That's what I said. Then i got told 'something dealing with government
>>>irs forms and storing alot of files'. So i think it might be a redundant
>>>type of filesystem? maybe perhaps email... but i don't think much more.
>>>
>>>Bill Brush wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>The most obvious question is:  To do what with?
>>>>
>>>>The application of a server is by far the most critical question that
>>>>
>>>>
>>has
>>
>>
>>>>to be answered.
>>>>
>>>>Bill
>>>>
>>>>olug-bounces at olug.org wrote on 02/25/2004 12:14:45 PM:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hey. My boss just walked up to me and asked if I can build him a
>>>>>1.4million dollar server farm..
>>>>>
>>>>>i can't...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>the price might not be that high, but apparently is that extreme.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm just wondering if any of you have any experience with server farms
>>>>>of any variant, what the best one would be / etc..
>>>>>
>>>>>I've seen stuff about BSD, and LINUX.. and sparcs and such..
>>>>>
>>>>>just don't know where to start..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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