Been there -- done that, only with RS6000 running AIX 'bout 10 years ago now. Used to have to go up to computer closet, pull out a 2GB drive and hold it steady, parallel to floor, and drop. Read it right out of the RS6000 manual, too. Thank god it worked. Gregory W Zill, MBA Information Security | Solaris | Linux | Cisco | Network 402-556-1963