[olug] Cox and port 25

Wed Sep 3 15:32:37 UTC 2003

I would almost bet that they log it all.  They would have too, if they were
to catch suspected spammers on their network.  Who knows how long they keep
the records but you can bet all emails incoming and outgoing are logged.

By default sendmail on RedHat logs all emails incoming and outgoing to
/var/log/maillog.  THe contents of the email arent kept anywhere.

Trent

-----Original Message-----
From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org]On Behalf Of
Brian Wiese
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:03 AM
To: Omaha Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [olug] Cox and port 25

So now does cox have to keep logs of all the emails being sent out of
their smtp servers? (for subpeona purposes?)  I guess I just have a little
uncomfortable feeling about cox requiring _all_ of the emails coming from
their network to go through _their_ smtp server.

I just read the privacy statement, that they "don't" read the content of
the emails and such, but isn't there some requirement for logging perhaps?

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:12:14 -0500
"Gregg Staroscik" <netsaint at cox.net> wrote:

|Dear Customer,
|
|With the increasing popularity of always-on High Speed Internet
|connections, the potential for unsolicited e-mail, or SPAM, has also
|increased.  This is not only considered a nuisance by our valued
|customers, but also potentially degrades customers e-mail service by
|consuming network and mail server resources.  SPAM also increases the
|potential for computer related virus attacks.  In an effort to protect
|our customers, as well as other members of the Internet community
|receiving e-mail from Cox customers, Cox is currently engaged in an
|initiative to reduce the amount of SPAM originating from our Cox High
|Speed Internet network.  Beginning Thursday, June 26 we will filter
|access to all 3rd party outgoing (SMTP) mail servers.
|
|You may be connecting to a 3rd party mail server because of one of the
|following reasons:
|
| - Your e-mail software, such as Outlook Express, is configured to use a
| 3rd party outgoing mail server to send e-mail, with or without your
| knowledge.
|
| - Your computer may be allowing other users from the Internet to connect
| to it.  These outside users may be using your machine to 'relay' their
| e-mail. We recommend that you review the security of your PC.
|
| - Your computer is infected with a virus that is attempting to spread
|itself via e-mail. We recommend that you update your anti-virus software
|and scan your machine for viruses.
|
|We believe that by putting this filter in place, we will stop 9 out of 10
|spam e-mails coming from the Cox network.  This will not only improve the
|experience for all Internet users, it will help insure that other
|Internet Service providers do not take action to block legitimate e-mail
|from our users.
|
|Following the implementation of this filter, any e-mail software
|configured to use an SMTP server other than smtp.central.cox.net to send
|e-mail from your computer will no longer work.  Although you will still
|be able to read any e-mail sent to you, an error message such as the one
|shown below will appear when you attempt to send e-mail to
|others:
|
|  A time-out occurred while communicating with the server.
|  Account: 'otheraccount.otherisp.com', Server: 'othersmtp.otherisp.com',
|  Protocol: SMTP, Port 25, Secure(SSL): No, Error Number: 0x800CCC19
|
|
|Customers using 3rd party email services must re-configure their email
|clients to use smtp.central.cox.net to send outbound e-mail.  You will
|find detailed instructions for configuring your mail client to use Cox
|servers for outbound SMTP e-mail traffic on our support site at the
|following URL:
|
|http://support.cox.net/custsup/email/settingup.shtml
|
|If you have a personal vanity domain you may still be able to use it in
|your e-mail address, as long as you use Cox e-mail servers when sending
|outgoing messages.
|
|If you would like more information on this initiative, please visit our
|support site at:
|
|http://support.cox.net/custsup/email/email_info.shtml.
|
|Thank you for choosing Cox as your High Speed Internet provider.
|
|
|Regards,
|Cox High Speed Internet Team
|
|
|
|-----Original Message-----
|From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf Of
|Jeff Hinrichs
|Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:11 PM
|To: Omaha Linux User Group
|Subject: [olug] Cox and port 25
|
|Up to today I've been able to use smtp with a server outside of cox's
|network.
|
|However, now I keep getting timeout messages for SMTP to that machine.
|If I ssh in to one of my boxes at work and then telnet in to port 25 of
|the remote machine all is peachy.  Any ideas?
|
|-Jeff
|
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