[olug] Cox and port 25

David Walker linux_user at grax.com
Fri Jun 27 14:24:08 UTC 2003


Do either ssh port forwarding as I describe separately or configure an smtp 
server at work that is not on port 25.

Personally I also approve of the measure.  Every virus these days seems to 
spread via e-mail and many of them try connect impersonate other users by 
sending mail through the impersonated user's mail server.  This measure 
disables those viruses and gives Cox a method to throttle spam.  It certainly 
has it's downsides, like what if their server is down and you still need to 
send mail? what if their server gets placed on blacklists and your mail gets 
rejected? etc.  I get around those problems with ssh port forwarding (or I 
would if I still lived in Omaha and had Cox.  I am in Lincoln with Earthlink 
cable now)



On Friday 27 June 2003 08:23 am, Nathan Rotschafer (OLUG) wrote:
> Now consider I run a valid business and work from home and need to send
> company email from my house what do I do?  If the email comes through Cox's
> servers some place will tag it as spam or refuse delivery based upon the
> fact that it is "forged".  Now what do I do?  In my opinion Cox just put a
> major blow to work from home business people and that is completely
> unacceptable. If there was another compelling solution in the Omaha Metro
> area I might just consider it after this...they are not big brother and
> cannot act as if they are...I understand the spam issue but they can track
> back where spam comes from without such a drastic business cutting measure.
>  Overall this measure gets 2 thumbs down to Cox and they will be forced to
> change it back I assure you before the month is over as many people will
> not stand for it...
>
> Nate
>
> On Friday 27 June 2003 08:41 am, Jay Hannah wrote:
> > "Nathan Rotschafer (OLUG)" wrote:
> > > I think we need to protest this...it seems instead of allowing legit
> > > access they want you to spoof your domain through their servers...how
> > > is this a good solution???
> >
> > 1) In the event that I decide to spam 1.2 million people from a
> > harvester program I downloaded, I have to do it through Cox's SMTP
> > server. Easier for abuse at cox.net to find me and shut me down w/o having
> > to reconfigure firewalls.
> >
> > 2) In the event that I'm running a Linux server in my home (which I'm
> > not supposed to do, but I do (sound familiar to anyone else on OLUG?
> > -grin-) and it gets hacked by some Taiwanese college student, and *they*
> > try to launch 1.2 million emails from it, they won't be able to. Cox
> > doesn't have to argue w/ their customers whose machines have been
> > exploited that yes, they *were* sending spam from their house, even
> > though the customer didn't have any idea what was going on. The kid from
> > Taiwan would have to go through Cox's SMTP server, which they probably
> > wouldn't bother doing, and if they did is (again) easier to shut down.
> >
> > That's my take on it anyway,
> >
> > j
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