[olug] Real opportunity for getting Open Source into the Enterprise

Nick Walter waltern at iivip.com
Tue Nov 26 15:23:40 UTC 2002


I write this sort of thing for a living nowadays (for telecoms to
track/bill subscribers) and java servlets + jsp pages really are the way
to go for front-end access in my experience.  The only downside to
servlets is that the memory/cpu overhead of tomcat is not database
friendly.  For decent performance you need 2 machines dead minimum, one
for db and one for apache/tomcat.  Plus desktop machines with web
browsers for access of course :)

I've only ever worked with Oracle as a database back-end, and that's way
too high cost for this scenario.  Anyone got experience with any of the
free databases, are they robust enough for this type of application?

Nick Walter


On Mon, 2002-11-25 at 23:50, Daniel Pfile wrote:
> On Monday, November 25, 2002, at 11:02 PM, Andrew Holm-Hansen wrote:
> 
> > I don't know PHP but I know enough Java to get a servlet container to 
> > do the job.  I've gotten a sort of similar app working using a 
> > Postgres backend and Tomcat as the servlet container.
> 
> The reason I brought up php is most people know it, and it's low system 
> requirements. Java servlets would be fine as well, I've never written a 
> large project in it, but I've got all the books and I'd love to give it 
> a shot. I actually debugged some servlet code (not mine) tonight even, 
> so maybe I'm underestimating my skills...
> 
> Also, a friend of mine who's a big delphi hacker (I know.. I know..) Is 
> looking to get into java, since he realizes delphi isn't a way to 
> maintain marketability. I bet he'd love an excuse to hack out some java 
> code for the experience of it. I'm not much a 'traditional' programer 
> (more of a sysadmin) but I love programming, and would pick up the 
> project for similar reasons.
> 
> > I've also done some data conversion, though depending on the schemas 
> > and the amount of data to be converted I may decide to punt on this 
> > particular project.
> > I'm willing, and I may even be able!
> 
> Agreed, the scale of the project and the state of the old data is a big 
> sticking point for me. I did a conversion project a few years ago, and 
> the biggest problem with flaws in the way the data (old dbf files) was 
> set up. It worked great on the old system, and great on ours, till we 
> tried to bring up record 12,384 for example and found out it was 
> corrupt, and there were lots more that way...
> 
> Sourceforge could give us a nice place to set up cvs/docs/etc, and I'm 
> sure all of us could set up a tomcat/postgres setup on our respective 
> development machines to test on.
> 
> -- Daniel 
> 
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