[olug] [OT] New Language for the Year
Jonathan Warren
thechunk at cox.net
Sat Nov 16 17:07:09 UTC 2002
I am interested but I won't be able to do meetings. I know quite a few languages now and think this sounds like fun.
-Jon W
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 06:45:26PM -0600, Jordan Wilberding wrote:
> Count me in too.
>
> -Jordan Wilberding (diginux at diginux.net)
>
> > On Wednesday 13 November 2002 23:33, Kevin Lanik wrote:
> > I think this sounds like a great idea, count me in...
> > Kevin
> > Lanik
> >
> > --- Mike Hostetler <thehaas at binary.net> wrote:
> > > Disregard this message if you are not a programmer, or not interested
> > > in
> > > learning an obscure language -- you will only receive this once.
> > >
> > > I'm a big fan of the book "The Pragmatic Programmer", and it has
> > > changed how
> > > I have thought about programming, and has got me creating better
> > > programs.
> > > One of the things they mentioned in the book is learning a new
> > > language
> > > every year. The idea is that, even though you may not use the new
> > > language
> > > professionally, you can take concepts of that language and apply it
> > > to the
> > > ones you use day-to-day. Even though I haven't done this, I think it
> > > has
> > > great merit -- I had a job that I worked with XSLT's every day. Now,
> > > even
> > > though I don't do that, some of the pure functional ideas of XSLT has
> > > enabled me to write better Python apps (which is what I am doing
> > > now).
> > >
> > > As an offshoot of this, a bunch of developers started a "Language of
> > > the
> > > Year" (LotY) study group. It has an email list
> > > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pragprog/) and a Wiki
> >
> > (http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/cgi-local/pragprog?LanguageOfTheYear).
> >
> > > And they just talk about it on the internet, post on the Wiki and
> > > it's cool.
> > > But I think it would be neat to do this on a local level -- have the
> > > mailing
> > > list, the Wiki, but get together once a month or a few times a year
> > > and talk
> > > about it, network, workshop and learn a little.
> > >
> > > So this is my call -- who wants to join me?? If we can get at least
> > > three or
> > > four others, I'd say we do it. We can start on January 1, 2003, but
> > > we have
> > > to choose a language, get the list setup, etc.
> > >
> > > A few caveats, though:
> > > o you really ought to be somewhat experienced. The rest of the
> > > group
> > > shouldn't have to teach you basic OOP concepts, etc.
> > > o the language should be somewhat obscure. We don't want to teach
> > > people Perl,
> > > Python, or PHP. I'm thinking most like Haskell, Oz, OCaml, etc.
> > > o even though it is obscure, it needs to be actively developed and
> > > have
> > > good online tutorials (a good printed book wouldn't be bad either).
> > >
> > > If you want to join me, reply back and we'll get going. If you know
> > > someone
> > > who may be interested, and lives in the LNK-OMA area, feel free to
> > > forward
> > > them this message.
> > >
> > > over and out,
> > >
> > > -- mikeh
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mike Hostetler
> > > thehaas at binary.net
> > > http://www.binary.net/thehaas
> > > GnuPG key: http://www.binary.net/thehaas/mikeh.gpg
> > >
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