[olug] i want a mac!

Phil Brutsche phil at giedi.obix.com
Fri Mar 15 23:39:26 UTC 2002


A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> I know there a are a few mac users out there... but do any of you have
> an extra one I can play with??? ;-)

Sure! :)  Any particular requests?

> I don't necessarily want to buy one, yet, but I would like to at least
> play with one, and I know there is at least one person on the list that
> has an extra one... btw.. when I say "play" I mean I want to not only
> mess with masOS ( 8/9/X ) but also Linux...

Um, be aware that OS X will need some coaxing to run on anything I can
offer.  All I have are oldworld clones[1]...

> so It should be one that can be completely wipable without any
> repercussions. I do have quite a few items that I can be persuaded to
> trade for, not permanent, just long enough to get a good feel of if I
> want one or not!....  even an older g3 would be cool.

Mine are:

* "Frankenmac" Umax J700 604e/225MHz, PCI ethernet card because I don't
  have the little riser with the connectors for the serial ports and
  built-in ethernet :(, no video
* "Frankenmac" Umax J700 G4 @ 450MHz & 1MB L2 Cache, complete with a
  Sonnett ATA/66 IDE controller and ATA66 drives.
* Umax S900 (dual capable!) G3 * 266MHz & 512MB L2 Cache, complete with
  dual SCSI drives :) (one MacOS 8.6, one Debian Linux)

They're all totally wipable once I go over them and make sure there's
nothing I want to save, but the G4 will need a 50-pin SCSI hard disk
before you'll be able to install Linux - Linux doesn't like the Sonnett
drive controller.

Is the S900 old enough for ya? :)

[1] PCI PowerMacs are basically separated into 2 generations - OldWorlds
that use ADB for the keyboard/mouse and have a cripped firmware and mostly
Sun OpenBoot-like firmware (aka OpenFirmware 1.x or OpenFirmware 2.x), and
NewWorlds that don't *have* ADB, and use their built-in USB for a keyboard
and mouse and have a non-crippled and *very* Sun OpenBoot-like firmware
(aka OpenFirmware 3.0+).  OldWorlds that didn't ship with G3s have trouble
running a stock OS X, and need some easily available but totally
unofficial OS patches to be able to boot OS X.

-- 

Phil


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