[olug] Why I no longer care about Disney.

Fri Jun 7 22:38:22 UTC 2002

For some voting is extreme. Participation in life is extreme. Purchasing DVDs is extreme. Listening to MP3s is extreme. etc etc etc

Jonathan Warren <jonwarren at cox.net> wrote:

>Well I can respect your enthusiasm but that is a little extreme for me.  My contention is simple I don't beleive that our current legislators care at all about the constitution they swore to defend.  I don't care if a company is capitalistic.  I someday want to own a successful company.  I really enjoyed Spiderman even though I fed Sony movies money to file lawsuits with.  My question is why do we elect these polititions and never report on there actions.  When a bill is proposed almost any citizen can tell you there stance on it but how many make sure there representative agrees with them?  Trusting someone because they are well spoken and look nice  seems flawed.  The frivilous lawsuits wouldn't happen if the legislature and courts upheald our constitutional rights.  Oddly enough in every case these attempts at controling or banning content have failed misserably and helped define fair use.  The places where I am most worried are not the blatant "Code is not text", because I expect higher courts to continue to rule with the constitution, but the frivilous patents and follow on suits and the misunderstanding of copyright intent.  Snow White should be public domain.  There really isn't any reason it shouldn't be.  No one should be awarded a patnet for swinging sideways on a swing or for a hyperlink.  Software patents in general are almost all frivilous.  I could understand it if it was a part of a larger system and truely represented something new.  Anyway I enjoy movies and I buy DVD's.  I want to play back the DVD on my computer, even in linux, and take screenshots.  I don't listen to my CD's directly anymore because having a complete MP3 collection is much more conveinent.  I laugh every time I log into gnutella and see all the activity there.  I wonder why the music industry tries.  They can't get rid of ftp, gnutella, http, or any other transfer protocol.  I think every day that I would like to buy some new music.  Funny thing is the only album to catch my attention in the last year was a street band playing in Omaha.  So my wife and I bought a CD from them.  I beleive content is sorly lacking in the music industry.  My .02 for today.
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>Remember to vote.  And if you don't like what someone did vote against them.
>-Jon Warren
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>On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 08:51:37PM -0400, Timothy G. O'Brien wrote:
>> Why? because our country & world are populated by "sheeple", who do not care.
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>> I for one have not purchased any DVD's, and have only gone to the movies once or twice in the last year - one of those was at the Dundee. Also, I do not partake in any fast "food" establishments; and try not to purchase corp food products.
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>> I have tried talking to friends & family on this issue - most do not want to hear about it or dismiss my "Konspiricy" Xfiles theorys. So I follow the  issue as best I can, and try to do what I can.
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>> David Walker <linux_user at grax.com> wrote:
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>> >Censorship:
>> >I find it unacceptable that the movie industry should so blatantly go about
>> >trying to censor the artistic creations of computer programmers while being
>> >so anti-censorship themselves.  A piece of computer source code that depicts
>> >how to copy a DVD movie you legitimately purchased is an evil thing to be put
>> >down while a piece of celluloid demonstrating drug use, terrorism, murder
>> >sprees, how to defeat a murder rap, and other crimes is a celebrated artistic
>> >work protected by our rights to freedom of expression.
>> >
>> >Doesn't work:
>> >The software industry has spent the last 20 years looking at copy protection
>> >and they have come to the conclusion that it does not work.  Why should the
>> >movie industry expect the software industry to suddenly make it work just
>> >because it is legally mandated?
>> >
>> >I don't buy it:
>> >I have cut back my movie watching extremely just because of their actions in
>> >these matters.  I used to purchase a DVD weekly but I have't purchased one in
>> >months.  I rarely go to movies purely because that money goes to support the
>> >same people.
>> >
>> >Stolen from the public and then sold back for a profit:
>> >These people have been manipulating congress for most of this century,  
>> >hijacking material that would go into the public domain for their own private
>> >gain.  28 years used to be the maximum copyright protection.  Certainly long
>> >enough to make incredible sums of money from a project.  Star Wars: A New
>> >Hope isn't even 28 years old yet.
>> >
>> >(In case you can't tell this is a topic I follow closely)
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>> >On Thursday 06 June 2002 03:18 pm, Jonathan Warren wrote:
>> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/24262.html
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>> >> I really can't beleive the power we allow influencal people to exhort over
>> >> our goverment.  I am happy to see the resistane that the online press is
>> >> putting  up on these issues I just wish the general public had a better
>> >> understanding of computers, digital copyright, freespeach, and the 2nd
>> >> amendment.  Ok the last one is unrelated but I still wish people knew there
>> >> rights as americans and would fight more to protect them.
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>> >> -Jon
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