[olug] linux web server management ?

[Eric Penne]

Debian is very easy.  All of the problems I've ever had with a debian
install were because I didn't have any good floppy disks.  

Apt has front ends like ncurses based aptitude and GUI "forgot the name
but I used it last night".  Software install could not be any easier.  

Here is what I do now.  I install a base debian system.  then from the
command line I type in the program I want to install.  I run a static
webserver on one so the first command I run from the base system is:

apt-get install apache

This grabs all dependencies and installs them.  Have you tried to do
something similar with one command from the command line in any other
distro?  It brings on fits of rage.

Another machine is a fileserver with samba.  From the base system:

apt-get install samba

That's it!!!!  Instant dedicated system!  So wonderfully easy I could
almost wet myself.  

Debian is not hard to install it is just intimidating to think about. 
In reality though, debian is easy.

Debian also comes with Webmin.  

apt-get install webmin

Dude, Dell's are even this easy.

A graphical installer would be nicer yet.  Just to reduce the
intimidation factor.

Eric



--- bbrush at unlnotes.unl.edu wrote:
> 
> I agree with the disagreement here.
> 
> Installing a "non-stock" program on any given distro can range from
> "piece
> of cake" to "impossible".
> 
> For myself I would like to see Linux get somewhat close to
> DOS/Windows in
> how programs are installed.  That is there is a standard
> executable/binary/script name that you run, and the damn thing
> installs
> itself.
> 
> I don't get  a charge out of running "Make", it's just tedious.  RPM
> hell
> is well documented and even more tedious.  Apt sounds cool, but from
> what
> I've heard Debian is pretty much for hard-core geeks. (When JR has
> problems
> installing it I know I don't even want to bother.)
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I like Linux, and it's my leading candidate to
> replace
> Windows, but doing some every-day tasks on it is insanely
> complicated.
> 
> That being said, my OpenOffice installation went pretty much
> flawlessly, so
> I have hope.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
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> Jonathan Warren said:
> >> With linux it is easy to install software.
> >
> >No, I'd have to disagree.
> >
> >>  You just need to copy the
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