[olug] just curious
mesc
mescie at home.com
Mon Nov 6 17:42:19 UTC 2000
There is probably nothing wrong with logcheck or how you have
it configured. The problem is that Netscape 4.x can only retrieve mail
from one server (unless they're IMAP servers). This can be a remote
machine, say at your ISP, school, or work, or it can be your local
machine.
Apparently when I had logcheck working before it was sending the logcheck
report to my isp mail server where when I went to check my mail I would
download it to my inbox.Ideally I would like to use my machine to send the
logcheck report to my inbox therefore doing away with sending that data
anywhere to the outside world (would I have to make my machine a mail server
then?)
> I'm assuming that this means that your
> machine is connected to the Internet 24 hours a day.
I have a cable modem but I activate/deactivate the interface throughout the
day so no I'm not connected 24 hours a day.
1. You could have the output from logcheck sent to your ISP and then
continue to have Netscape retrieve your mail there. This would involve
making sure that the mail transfer agent (MTA) on your local machine is
properly configured to send mail to remote addresses. You would also
probably have to forward the mail from your local account or configure
logcheck to mail your remote account.
I think I had it this way originally 2 months ago when it was working and I
think it's configured that way now,here are a few lines from my maillog that
appear to be mailing it to /var/spool/mail/mesc where the report is showing up
but it's not e-mailing it to netscape's messenger,pine or any mail reader for
that matter which leads me to believe it's a configure problem......Nov 6
11:00:01 omhan1 sendmail[10685]: LAA10685: to=mesc, delay=00:00:00, xdela
y=00:00:00, mailer=local, stat=Sent
Nov 6 11:00:09 omhan1 sendmail[10670]: LAA10670: to=mesc, ctladdr=root (0/0),
d
elay=00:00:09, xdelay=00:00:08, mailer=local, stat=Sent
I'm also getting a 2nd e-mail sent to /var/spool/mail/mesc relating to user
unknown...........
Nov 6 11:00:01 omhan1 sendmail[10683]: LAA10683: to=check, delay=00:00:00,
mail
er=local, stat=User unknown
Nov 6 11:00:01 omhan1 sendmail[10683]: LAA10683: to=11/06/00:11.00,
delay=00:00
:00, mailer=local, stat=User unknown
Nov 6 11:00:01 omhan1 sendmail[10683]: LAA10683: to=omhan1.ne.home.com,
delay=0
0:00:00, mailer=local, stat=User unknown
I'm sure this is because when I run /usr/local/etc/logcheck.sh I get
check... User unknown
11/06/00:11.27... User unknown
omhan1.ne.home.com... User unknown at the prompt where as you know if
everything went allright it would return nothing at the prompt,so this must be
why I'm getting 2 reports mailed to /var/spool/mail/mesc for each time
logcheck e-mails /var/spool/mail/mesc,one normal and one user unknown.
3. Run an IMAP server on your local machine and configure Netscape to
retrieve local and remote mail. This will not work if the remote server
is not an IMAP server.
This sounds like what I'll do if it's not too complicated.
I remember you saying that you're running Mandrake. If
so, then you're probably using Postfix as your local MTA.
Yes I am running postfix.
I've read most of the links you've mentioned and I haven't had any luck yet
but I will keep reading them over and over,it might be a few words I missed
and misconfigured something ...that's all it takes :)
Thank you,Gary Martin
> I can't comment on whether you should bring your machine to the meeting
> but I can help clarify the difficulty you're having with logcheck.
> logcheck is simply using the local mail facility that you have on your
> machine. There is probably nothing wrong with logcheck or how you have
> it configured. The problem is that Netscape 4.x can only retrieve mail
> from one server (unless they're IMAP servers). This can be a remote
> machine, say at your ISP, school, or work, or it can be your local
> machine. (According to what I've read, Mozilla doesn't suffer from this
> limitation. However, Mozilla currently lacks certain things you might
> need and is slower and more unstable.) This means that if you're going
> to use Netscape to read and send mail, you probably need to make sure
> that all of your mail is going to the same place.
>
> It looks like you're currently retrieving your mail from your ISP
> (@home). (Of course, the reply-to field in your mail headers is a very
> weak indication of this.) I'm assuming that this means that your
> machine is connected to the Internet 24 hours a day. If what I've said
> is true, you have three choices.
>
> 1. You could have the output from logcheck sent to your ISP and then
> continue to have Netscape retrieve your mail there. This would involve
> making sure that the mail transfer agent (MTA) on your local machine is
> properly configured to send mail to remote addresses. You would also
> probably have to forward the mail from your local account or configure
> logcheck to mail your remote account.
>
> 2. You could have all mail forwarded from your ISP to your local
> machine. You would need to make sure that your local mail facilities
> are configured properly to deliver mail and you might even want to make
> sure that they're configured properly to send mail from your local
> machine. You would also need to configure Netscape to retrieve your
> mail (and possibly send it) locally and use a movemail program to move
> mail from your local mailbox to where Netscape expects to find it.
>
> 3. Run an IMAP server on your local machine and configure Netscape to
> retrieve local and remote mail. This will not work if the remote server
> is not an IMAP server.
>
> I do not recommend choice #1 because it means sending sensitive local
> mail to the @home network, where it could easily be hijacked. I don't
> know the details of #3 and can't even be sure that it's feasible because
> I haven't investigated that possibility. I strongly recommend choice
> #2. Unfortunately, implementing choice #2 is a little complicated.
> But, since your machine is connected to the Internet 24 hours a day, you
> should make sure that your local mail facilities are properly configured
> anyway. Otherwise, you might be leaving yourself open to attack.
>
> I can't provide a step-by-step procedure for implementing choice #2
> because what you need to do depends on the various pieces of mail
> software that you are running. However, I can point you to some
> documentation. I remember you saying that you're running Mandrake. If
> so, then you're probably using Postfix as your local MTA.
>
> Documentation to help you understand Postfix is available from a nearby
> mirror of the Postfix web site:
>
> http://postfix.capital-internet.net/start.html
>
> You might also have a local copy of this documentation under /usr/doc.
> I recommend reading all of the Postfix documentation so you get a better
> understanding of how mail and Postfix work. Once you've read through
> the Postfix docs, take a look at the Red Hat Postfix HOWTO
>
> http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/howto/RH-postfix-HOWTO/book1.html
>
> I recommend reading Section 8 on Postfix configuration and the beginning
> of Section 9 on the stand-alone configuration for the home user or
> possibly Section 9.2 on the home network. If you have difficulty,
> consult the Postfix FAQ
>
> http://postfix.capital-internet.net/faq.html
>
> or the Red Hat Postfix FAQ
>
> http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/faqs/RH-postfix-FAQ/book1.html
>
> The other links on the documentation page on the Postfix site might also
> be worthwhile.
>
> If you aren't running Postfix, try looking at the Email section of the
> Linux Adminstrator's Security Guide from the Linux Documentation
> Project, which is located at
>
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/lasg/servers/email/index.html
>
> This will give you an overview and point you to the primary web site for
> whatever mail software you're running.
>
> To help you understand how to configure Netscape properly, see
> "CONFIGURING NETSCAPE MAIL ON UNIX"
>
> http://home.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/2.0/relnotes/demo/movemail.html
>
> This is an old document but is still pertinent. I suggest reading the
> entire document but pay particular attention to the section on using
> movemail. You shouldn't need an external movemail program. The
> movemail built into Netscape works just fine under Linux.
>
> The key to getting everything working is to get a clear conception of
> what you're trying to accomplish. I suggest writing down your
> mail-related goals and keeping notes as you go. Start from the goal of
> receiving and sending mail locally. There are some details that I
> haven't discussed, such as establishing the correct email aliases so
> that responses are sent to the right place and your headers make sense
> locally and remotely, but you should start getting a clearer picture of
> these issues once you read through some of the documentation.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Mark
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