[olug] Heart attack after 11.04 upgrade

[George De Bruin]

My opinion of LXDE comes from (a) the personal experience of PCManFM having
trashed filesystems (literally - fsck couldn't fix them), (b) finding that
it used deprecated GTK API's for setting it's theme (via a deprecated config
file) which caused the theme settings to be screwed in any other GTK based
desktop I tried to use (ie, Gnome and Xfce), (c) it changing my screensaver
and session settings (more of an annoyance, but after the first two it was a
nail in the coffin for me as it was very difficult to undo).

I like OpenBox - one of the better window managers out there.  And, the LXDE
project does have one thing working nicely: lxsession.  Aside from that, I
won't touch it.  (Yes, it can improve with time, but after the lost
filesystems, it's not worth the risk - and honestly the reason I will tell
people to not use or trust it, ever.)

IMO - if a good lightweight distribution is desired, check out CrunchBang.
 Light weight, well thought out, Debian based, and uses OpenBox or Xfce for
it's desktop interface.

>From what I've seen of "modern" desktops, it's typically come to mean three
things to me: (a) lots of unnecessary, annoying, distracting eye-candy and
bloat (extremely bad for anyone with visual issues...and an unnecessary
drain on system resources), (b) interface design changes that break many of
the better UI design concepts for no reason, (c) confusing and
ill-conceived organization paradigms / metaphors (and, even when there is a
good idea or two, the implementation is either broken or incomplete).

So, just call me a curmudgeon.  Bah-humbug. ;)

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:23 AM, T. J. Brumfield <enderandrew at gmail.com>wrote:

> I haven't had the need to use it myself, so I don't have a personal opinion
> on it. The reviews I've read are that it is mode of a "modern" desktop than
> XFCE while using similar or fewer resources.
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:14 AM, George De Bruin <sndchaser at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Friends do not let (nor encourage) friends to use LXDE.  Do you really
> hate
> > Ben that much? :)
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 8:57 AM, T. J. Brumfield <enderandrew at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > LXDE is also an option for those of you looking for a lightweight
> > desktop.
> > >
> > > If you looked at KDE 2 years ago using Ubuntu repositories, I'm sure it
> > > wasn't pretty. Kubuntu had the worst, most broken implementation of KDE
> > 4.x
> > > out there. It has gotten better. It is certainly worth looking at.
> > >
> > > The problem is that Ubuntu treats KDE like a second-class citizen, so a
> > lot
> > > of the features they develop for Ubuntu never make it to Kubuntu.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Jon Larsen <jon at jonlarsen.us> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just curious - did you install the gnome3 packages after you upgraded
> > or
> > > > are you using the default Unity packages?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 06/27/2011 11:15 PM, Obi-Wan wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I just finished upgrading my desktop box from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04
> > > >> today, and the first time I logged in, I almost went into cardiac
> > > >> arrest.  I can't express how badly I hate the new Gnome environment.
> > > >> What are my options?  Is it possible to reconfigure this new POS
> > > >> to behave like the previous version?  Has KDE gotten any more user
> > > >> friendly in the 2 years since I last gave up on it?  Are there other
> > > >> viable options?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
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