[olug] Community Colo Project

Curtis LaMasters curtislamasters at gmail.com
Thu Apr 2 19:58:17 UTC 2009


Why would we even need to be an entity?  I guess I could somehow see
it as an easier way to bill each other.  Depending on what the total
cost to do this is, auto billing could be setup to go to an OLUGish
type account where one of the members would pay
Cogent/CoSentry/Cox/etc.... Unless I'm totally lost it sounds pretty
easy to automate.  If we can get a developer talked into it, we could
start colo.olug.org as a billing portal. :)

I would be in for 5U (1x1U Server and 1x4U server).  I would still
obviously need to run it past the wife.

Curtis LaMasters
http://www.curtis-lamasters.com
http://www.builtnetworks.com



On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Dan Clough <dclough at gmail.com> wrote:
> Pain-in-the-ass way it is.  I had articles for a nonprofit typed up, I'll start working on articles for a LLC.
>
> What should we call it?  The usual "(insert city here) Community Colocation Project" or do we want something that hasn't been beaten into the ground?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Charles.Bird" <charles.bird at powerdnn.com>
>
> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:43:20
> To: Omaha Linux User Group<olug at olug.org>
> Subject: Re: [olug] Community Colo Project
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>
> From my experience, the pain in the ass way is usually the best way.
> The pain in the ass way might be for us to form our own entity.
>
> I'm not a 100K per year super Linux admin(yet?) if I made even 70k I'd take
> it on with my own responsibility.
> All I can do is contribute cash and time, and some equipment.
>
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>
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Dan Clough <dclough at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Figuring out a pricing structure is a priority at this point in time,
>> but that's currently on hold until we find out what the damage is for
>> the Pinpoint cage and power circuits.  With all the pledges of equipment
>> we've seen so far, I doubt our expenses will exceed that of the cage
>> space, power and bandwidth.
>>
>> While we're on the subject of finances, we *really* need to decide what
>> we're going to do about legal entities.  I've been juggling ideas which
>> include forming our own nonprofit corporation, piggybacking on another
>> organization or just dumping it on one person's shoulders.  The last one
>> is an obvious no-no as I doubt anyone would want to take sole fiscal
>> responsibility of the venture if it went tits-up.  Ideas?
>>
>> Dave Rowe wrote:
>> > Phil Brutsche wrote:
>> >> People should be allowed to bring in anything they want (given
>> >> reasonable hardware constraints - ie 4U or smaller rackmount) as long as
>> >> they maintain their machine(s) properly and bay their bill.
>> >>
>> >> I'm just making sure people are performing reality checks, we shouldn't
>> >> be getting any grandiose ideas and ordering a 50Mbps line under the
>> >> assumption that there will be that many "clients".
>> >>
>> >> Dan Clough wrote:
>> >>> Well, that's just it.  Hopefully it won't just be us, hopefully we
>> >>> can get people who want colocation or even local web hosting but
>> >>> can't find it... Even if it means inviting the WUG in... ;)
>> >>>
>> >>> We want enough capacity for us to fill and for any other "clients"
>> >>> we'll hopefully bring on board.  20Meg should be fine.
>> >
>> > With that in mind, does someone who has an idea (ballpark is even
>> > valuable) as to what the monthly cost (+ setup? ie, to help cover the
>> > Cogent installation?) per U is?  Then, people who might use it can
>> > evaluate (reply to the list) with what they'd want (no obligation).
>> > Then, you'd have a better idea of how big the client base is, and what
>> > the estimated usage would be.
>> >
>> > I've throughly enjoyed following this, and see myself as a potential
>> > 'client' of this, but without knowing the monthly cost, I'm not fully
>> > 'sold' on it.
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