[olug] Bluejay Usage Questionaire

John Dickson jman at neonramp.com
Fri Jun 3 13:50:24 UTC 2005


I have installed quite a few Sonicwall and I am pretty certainthat the OS is not Linux. I believe it is a VMS flavor. At least that was what was installed in the last box I plugged in.

John

Rob Townley wrote ..
> Exchange is not less expensive than Linux.
> Both the Astaro and SonicWall are linux based appliances that use
> network access control / quarantine capabilities.  Maybe you need one
> windows server to make sure they have their windows updates, but the
> email machine would not have to be exchange.  Just as diversity in the
> gene pool is important to the survival of the species, diversity in
> computer systems is important in staying online after attack.
> 
> On 6/2/05, Phil Brutsche <phil at brutsche.us> wrote:
> > Rob Townley wrote:
> > > 1. Bluejay is expensive to maintain regarding licensing and hardware.
> > >
> > >
> > > 2. Bluejay storage overhead continues to consume expensive disk space
> > >  and administration time.
> > >
> > > 3. Maintaining Bluejay consumes administrators' attentions that are
> > > needed elsewhere.
> > >
> > > 4. While Bluejay is online for mail and personal web space DoIT
> > > support resources are divided between it and emerging systems.
> > 
> > What they fail to mention are...
> > 
> > a) They replaced all their HP-UX dudes with Windows weenies who,
> >    incidentally, command smaller salaries
> > b) Exchange may be expensive, but that's nothing compared to the support
> >    costs for HP-UX and the PA-RISC machines they are getting rid of
> > c) There are other political and technical factors invovled that I doubt
> >    anyone on the list is completely knowledgeable about
> > 
> > For instance, I suspect they are going to start using Cisco's NAC
> > technology to try to keep security problems under control; this is a
> > school, after all, with 6000+ users (students, faculty, staff) who have
> > poor computer use habits.
> > 
> > Hmm... I still know a few people at Creighton, I wonder if I can get
> a
> > hold of any of that HP-UX gear cheap...
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Phil Brutsche
> > phil at brutsche.us
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