[olug] Local internet access.

[Ben Dinger]

It's the folks who say that they are "old pro"'s that you have to watch out the most for :). 

Now, if they are doing it with one IP, they are likely using BGP.  In fact, that's just about the only way to do it.  With two routers it would be a PITA, ideally you'd want one router with two ADSL interfaces.  If you are using BGP, it would require cooperation from your ISP, definitely.  That is the most elegant way of doing it, and pretty much the only way with one IP for two physical/virtual DSL circuits. 

I guess, maybe, it's possible to do multilink PPP on a DSL.  FOr the life of me I don't know WHY one would want to, nor of any DSL CPE that would support it - but I guess theoretically it's possible if your ISP supports it. 

In general, this is a question I've visited quite a bit, and there is no simple solution for it.  :(

On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 09:14:12PM +0100, Charles Bird wrote:
> I was told by a "old pro" at a local ISP that some people have had 2 DSL lines/routers and one IP, without cooperation from the other end, I was told that it was starting to p-off alot of people because it was increasing loads on DNS world wide. Have I seen it done?  Hope, just heard of it...will I look into doing this? Nope, too lazy to do anything that'll get me in trouble.
>   I dont know what its called, it is kinda like shotgun though. Bonded sounds good. Its not a Paired connection like paracom has available.
>   
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sam Tetherow <tetherow at sandhillswireless.net>
> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:36:22 -0500
> To: Omaha Linux User Group <olug at olug.org>
> Subject: Re: [olug] Local internet access.
> 
> > Not sure what you mean by shotgunning but there shouldn't be a problem 
> > doing a dual routed setup.  Now if you are looking for bonded you will 
> > obviously be needing cooperation from the other end.
> > 
> > Charles Bird wrote:
> > 
> > >Oh man, I have to put in my estatic feeling of the week...I found some apts. right across the street from the qwest CO in Counciltucky I mean like 200-400ft, I dont know where in the line it is but it cant be too far.....whoo!! I asked the lord of the land if I could install 2 phone lines for twin DSL bussiness connections and I got the OK, I'll be moving in 4-5 months. Then I can make my twin rack with a bunk bed on top. =D
> > >   I'm still wondering about shotgun DSL, I know its been done with and without permision from CO on the east coast and I'm gonna have to talk to those fools to see whats going on with that in our area.
> > >Anyone know the deal with shotgun dsl? 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Phil Brutsche <phil at brutsche.us>
> > >Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 02:14:04 -0500
> > >To: Omaha Linux User Group <olug at olug.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [olug] Local internet access.
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >>Eric Lusk wrote:
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >>>The key to qwest is NOT letting their "technicians" install your
> > >>>internet access
> > >>>      
> > >>>
> > >>Abso-friggin-lutely.  The same can also be said for almost any ISP.
> > >>
> > >>At work one of my co-workers has QWeset DSL.  Works great, with one
> > >>small detail... QWest configured her Cisco 678 DSL modem to be a NATing
> > >>firewall (she gets 10.0.0.0/24 on her PC).
> > >>
> > >>Not a major problem for most home users, but if you're trying to get a
> > >>IPsec VPN setup working (or even something simple like ssh) it makes for
> > >>unnecessary complications.
> > >>
> > >>-- 
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> > >>Phil Brutsche
> > >>phil at brutsche.us
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