[olug] linux web server management ?

[Jonathan Warren]

Just to give my .02 ( maybe you deleted this email already ) I use rsync to keep a local version of slackware-current and update my packages from there when I need the latest and greatest or the security fixes.  If anyone runs slackware and wants a copy of my rsync script let me know.  It is very convenient.  Of course it does take 2.5 Gig of disk space to keep everything ( including source and build scripts ) current.  

-Jon W

On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 11:28:08AM -0600, William E. Kempf wrote:
> 
> Eric Penne said:
> > Debian is very easy.  All of the problems I've ever had with a debian
> > install were because I didn't have any good floppy disks.
> >
> > Apt has front ends like ncurses based aptitude and GUI "forgot the name
> > but I used it last night".  Software install could not be any easier.
> >
> > Here is what I do now.  I install a base debian system.  then from the
> > command line I type in the program I want to install.  I run a static
> > webserver on one so the first command I run from the base system is:
> >
> > apt-get install apache
> >
> > This grabs all dependencies and installs them.  Have you tried to do
> > something similar with one command from the command line in any other
> > distro?  It brings on fits of rage.
> 
> With out getting into religious distro wars, I do the same on Mandrake
> with URPMI... and mostly do the same on RedHat with apt-rpm (though
> finding a repository is difficult).  My understanding is that you do the
> same with portage on Gentoo as well (though that system actually compiles
> from source during installs).  But there are still issues, ranging from
> "does this arcane tool I need have a package for my distro" to "how the
> @$@%#@ do I configure this beast once it's installed".
> 
> > Another machine is a fileserver with samba.  From the base system:
> >
> > apt-get install samba
> >
> > That's it!!!!  Instant dedicated system!  So wonderfully easy I could
> > almost wet myself.
> >
> > Debian is not hard to install it is just intimidating to think about.
> > In reality though, debian is easy.
> >
> > Debian also comes with Webmin.
> >
> > apt-get install webmin
> >
> > Dude, Dell's are even this easy.
> >
> > A graphical installer would be nicer yet.  Just to reduce the
> > intimidation factor.
> 
> Actually, to allow easier use of "non-vanilla" installs.  For things like,
> say, installing to a non-standard location because I either don't have
> rights to install to the standard location or I want to have multiple
> versions installed at the same time.  Some package management systems
> allow you to do this, some don't, but it's not "intuitive" even for those
> that do.
> 
> William E. Kempf
> 
> 
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