linux in classrooms Re: [olug] Network Card Problems

Brian Wiese bwiese at cotse.com
Sat Jan 11 04:32:27 UTC 2003


Just to mention something in relation...

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 17:40:05 -0600
"Mike Peterson" <mpeterson at mail.charlesfurniture.com> wrote:

|The problem is at a college classroom where I teach hands-on System
|Administration like the labs at AIM.
<snip>
|Then I will have my own mini Installfest next week.
|Once every spring class.
|Some people mess up their drives and we have to install again however.


Hearing you talk about GNU/Linux in the classroom, reminded me of this
article I read just today... in the latest Linux Journal.  I private
school using GNU/Linux in the classroom and it sounded like they were
using nfs for the home directories - to keep the main systems pretty
clean.

Linux from Kindergarten to High School
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6349


|Everyone at the Installfest have fun.
|
|Maybe someday I can find time to go to one.
|
|I look forward to the February meeting if there is one.
|
|----- Original Message -----
|From: "Eric Penne" <epenne at yahoo.com>
|To: <olug at olug.org>
|Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 3:16 PM
|Subject: Re: [olug] Network Card Problems
|
|
|> If I was having this many problems with a network card I would go buy a
|> new network card and install it.  Network cards are very cheap less
|> than $15 with realtek chips using the 8139too module.  They are
|> extremely easy to install.  I think www.ditcorp.com has them for less
|> than $10.
|>
|> If I was in your position right now the things holding me back would be
|> if I could install the card because I don't have access to the
|> internals of the machine.  Another would be the expense of outfitting
|> lots of machines with the card.  Even with these problems, if you can't
|> get a realiable driver, then you need to use a different card no matter
|> what the cost.  How much will it cost for the new cards plus
|> installation vs. 10% uptime and constant hassles?  Otherwise your best
|> investment (saving time and getting sleep) would be to buy a new card.
|>
|> Eric
|>
|>
|> --- Michael Peterson <mpeterson at mail.charlesfurniture.com> wrote:
|> > Has anyone had luck finding a reliable driver for SIS 7016 network
|> > cards?
|> >
|> > I have tried Redhat 7.2, 7.3, and 8.0 and pre 8.1 beta.
|> >
|> > 7.2 works 10-25% of the time if you are lucky.
|> >
|> > I teach System Administration.
|> >
|> > I use Redhat because it is the major business supported distribution
|> > in
|> > the U.S.
|> > I cannot download iso images for SUSE full blown or I would look to
|> > using
|> > that.
|> > I have the iso's and CD's for United Linux but it is not working
|> > great in
|> > tests I have run with it either.
|> > Mandrake 9.0 and 8.2 have not worked out good either.
|> >
|> > I would try FreeBSD, but I would like to stick with Linux because
|> > that is
|> > what the current book I have chosen covers exclusively.
|> > I wanted to do network installs via http from my own deployment
|> > server but
|> > the boot diskettes do not contain a driver that works either.
|> > Any suggestions would be appreciated.
|> >
|> > I am pulling my hair out and not getting any sleep either.
|> >
|> > The class starts next week and this is only my part-time work that is
|> > taking up much of my time.
|> > Sorry if this is to much info or just the same old for some of you.


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