[olug] Distro Poll on the website

[Brian Roberson]

Yast is definately included i the ftp install... I have
asked the q a few times to suse reps I spoken with, and 
What Bill says is verbatim what they have said... however
I do have an email into an official stance for us, e.g. the
Use of SuSE 9.0 pro "copied" cd's for the Omaha Linux User Group
Installfest  ( to to C-O-A )


On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 02:36:42PM -0600, K.J. Kirwan wrote:
> OK, you've talked to them and you've read the license
> (I have done neither) so you're +2 over me.  And
> IANAL, but I have to agree with the poster below
> who pointed out that there are no ISOs, only the live
> CD and the FTP installer.  It was my understanding that
> Suse wants to sell Yast, and whatever other proprietary
> programs they also include.  And that the FTP installer
> does not install Yast, etc., so that the FTP install is
> sort of a "lite" version?
> 
> Wouldn't running Suse without Yast be like running
> Mandrake without urpmi or Gentoo without emerge?
> Isn't Yast one of Suse's big selling points, I mean?
> 
> "You can make copies of the CD and redistribute them
>   without a problem..."
> 
> Are you talking about the Live CD and the FTP install
> boot disk?  I agree, those would be no problem.
> But what about ISOs?  If what you say is true, why
> does no one copy their CDs/ISOs to an FTP server?
> Have you been able to find the current Suse ISO
> images anywhere?  Please let me know, as I would
> like to try Suse, but not via the Live CD (try
> before buy?) or the FTP installer (lite version?).
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I'd like to try Suse, a friend
> of mine likes it.  I'm just not sure how free it is.
> 
> On the one hand, at
> http://www.linuxiso.org/distro.php?distro=2
> they are still showing Suse at 8.2, but with no x86
> ISOs for sale, and a mention of the FTP and Live CD.
> 
> On the other hand, at
> http://www.linuxcd.org/view_item.php?id_version=373
> They show Suse 9.0 Professional, 5 CDs for $10.99.
> (Aha, only 5 CDs, I almost missed that.  Is the sixth
> CD for Yast and the proprietary stuff, etc.?)
> 
> So is it OK to copy CDs 1-5, but then you end up with
> Suse without Yast and the other Suse good stuff on CD 6?
> Wouldn't that be like Thanksgiving turkey without the
> stuffing and cranberry sauce?
> 
> Now I'm more confused than before.
> Are there any other Suse experts out there who would
> like to comment on this?  And what is running Suse
> like without "the trimmings"?
> 
> 
> Bill Brush wrote:
> 
> >I've got a copy of Suse9.0 Pro, and I've read the license, AND talked (irc)
> >to people who work for them.
> >
> >You can make copies of the CD and redistribute them without a problem, but
> >you can't get support for the installation beyond the first workstation you
> >use it (support) with.
> >
> >I think that Suse would be a very good "beginners" distro because the
> >desktop is very nice and everything I've tried to use with it has "just
> >worked".  It is a 6 CD set though.
> >
> >I could burn a set of CD's for further duplication if anyone would like a
> >set.  I can't burn more than one or two though as I'd be using my work
> >computer (and blanks) to do it.
> >
> >Bill
> >
> >
> >
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> >>Actually, I'm wondering the same thing (time) about SuSE.  They don't
> >>have downloadable ISO's for a system install.  They only have LiveCD's
> >>and an FTP install option unless you buy a box.  Their boxed versions
> >>contain non-free software, however, so I don't know if they can be
> >>copied and distributed legally.  No matter how we feel about the ethics
> >>of it, I think we want to keep it legal.  I don't know...maybe it is
> >>fine to copy and distribute SOME of the CDs from the boxed set.
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