[olug] Groupware suggestions - Long

Fri Apr 12 13:42:34 UTC 2002

We've tried this and it doesn't seem to work.  This is part of the
circular discussion that I've had with my boss 3 times now. Each time
he go back to this and tries it again.  Each time I spend the next hour
and half troubleshooting why it doesn't work and explaining to him that
I can't get it to work.

This was the original idea though, but for some reason it just won't
work.  I've never found a reason for it not working.

Thanks
Eric

PS If a good solution can be found (Win or Lin) there might be some
money involved to set it up and train me on it.

--- VincentR <vincentr at cox.net> wrote:
> Sorry, that shouldn't have been a question.
> Outlook must first be installed with the workgroup/corporate options
> checked.
> You'll then have the option to share things.
> 
> There's a lot of info about it in the ms knowledgebase.  Here are
> some simple
> examples.
>
http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q253480
>
http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q258619
> 
> 
> Why do I even remember this?  I haven't been near this stuff for
> years!
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Embury" <drazak at ingenii.com>
> To: <olug at olug.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [olug] Groupware suggestions - Long
> 
> 
> > No.  Unless an exchange server is in the mix, outlook opens the
> address
> > book/calendar exclusivly.
> >
> > Drew
> >
> > On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, VincentR wrote:
> >
> > > Can't Outlook share calanders and address books independantly,
> without a
> server?
> > > I believe it has that functionality, although limited, built into
> it.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Eric Penne" <epenne at yahoo.com>
> > > To: <olug at olug.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 5:44 PM
> > > Subject: [olug] Groupware suggestions - Long
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm completely fed up with my companies setup of the computers
> and
> > > > their functionality.  My boss wants a sharable address book by
> > > > everybody in the company (currently 4 people).  In this address
> book he
> > > > wants to be able to add notes to the contacts and have it
> instantly (or
> > > > relatively quickly) seen be everybody after he saves the note. 
> He also
> > > > wants it to interact nicely with his email client (MS Outlook
> 2000).
> > > > He would like to be able to share calendars and see what is on
> > > > everybodies calendar and vice versa.
> > > >
> > > > I've looked into LDAP and using rolodap but he wasn't very keen
> on the
> > > > idea of having to go to the web interface to add a user instead
> of just
> > > > adding the person from Outlook.
> > > >
> > > > So far I've found the options of using MS Exchange Server
> (~1300 bucks)
> > > > or going with something like Bynari's Insight server and the
> Outlook
> > > > plugin that they sell to get a hacked together groupware
> function.
> > > > Either way it is going to cost a lot of money.  I'm afraid of
> the setup
> > > > and maintenance of Exchange and I don't have any idea about
> Bynari.  I
> > > > don't have a lot of time/knowledge/balls to devote to these
> projects.
> > > > My boss would love to have somebody affordable come out and do
> > > > everything and then when it breaks down or anything be able to
> call
> > > > this affordable person up and have them come fix it.
> > > >
> > > > Our server currently is running Win2k Server with Active
> Directory.  It
> > > > is misconfigured and login takes forever and none of the
> permissions
> > > > stuff works correctly.  It only is used for file sharing, dhcp
> server,
> > > > and logining in the win2k machines on the network.  It really
> needs to
> > > > be taken down and redone from the ground up.
> > > >
> > > > The specs are:
> > > > IBM Netfinity 5100
> > > > Dual P3 733?
> > > > 256MB Ram
> > > > 4 hard drives in some sort of raid array?
> > > > TApe backup
> > > >
> > > > Then I got to thinking about groupware and running all email,
> contact,
> > > > and calendaring and everything all the throught the web browser
> and
> > > > haveing everything stored on the server.  That would get rid of
> part of
> > > > our MS outlook problem.  I'm willing to look at running a
> groupware
> > > > package from win2k server or putting linux on the server and
> running it
> > > > from that.  I'm also looking for simple configuration so that
> my boss
> > > > could hire a local student from the college that wants to earn
> some
> > > > extra money to install and maintain the system.  I'm willing to
> look at
> > > > commercial software and/or free software with paid tech
> support.
> > > >
> > > > Right now I just don't know where to begin.  It seems like a
> project
> > > > that I could take on then get busy doing other things and never
> finish,
> > > > except in this case I don't have the option not to finish.  I'm
> really
> > > > sheepish about taking on a project this large without some kind
> of
> > > > support.  I would like to present all the options to my boss
> but that
> > > > would be a waste of time because he would rather see an all in
> one
> > > > solution with a plan of attack on how to do it and how much it
> costs.
> > > > Getting him involved with choosing the system turns into a
> giant circle
> > > > jerk.  Right now he just doesn't understand why we can't do all
> this
> > > > stuff with outlook.  I try explaining that outlook has limited
> > > > functionality unless you purchase exchange but he just doens't
> > > > understnad.  We spent about an hour today having the same
> discussion we
> > > > had 2 months ago and about 3 months before that about why we
> can't do
> > > > this with outlook.
> > > >
> > > > So my final question is (drum roll please):
> > > >
> > > > What have members of OLUG used for groupware suites, how easy
> were they
> > > > to setup and maintain, and how functional were they (ie user
> interface
> > > > and suitable features)?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Eric Penne
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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