i vote non-profit.<br><br>I feel realistically confident about us existing as a non-profit and still staying progressive in terms of acquiring new hardware, money, bandwidth and evolution of the org. One example, I bet I could get PTP Microwave equipement for free as a
nonprofit, I also think I could score a badass switch or two down the road..likley a brandnew Juniper,
also for free, possibilites exist that dont exist for a for profit,
such as support from multiple major businesses in this area and specific vendors.<br><br>it would be advantageous to some of our members for this be a nonprofit in the sense of tax deductible donations both actual money, and equipment.<br>
<br>Money can come from more places with the nonprofit as opposed to a company thats doing hosting. Hosting is a tough biz unless one finds a real big niche. In PowerDNN's case, they have been hosting an opensource application, and doing it very well for years. Very few companies understand the application as well as they do, they even wrote their own caching provider for DNN and it works alot better than the original. If it wasnt for all of that, then there is no way they could exist since their bandwidth and colo is higher cost than the big city providers that have something like 30Gb backhaul to the POPs<br>
<br>I think as it could be a nonprofit, then the customers(members) could then in turn have the ability to start their own operations under it as a service provider/hosting company.<br><br>I know there is alot of desire to go for profit and I am not opposing it to be a dickhead :) I sincerily think it really should be non-profit.<br>
I'll donate more time if its going to be a pain in the ass to go this route. I can do alot of grant writing, labor, footwork, etc<br><br><br>Charles<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Dan Clough <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dclough@gmail.com">dclough@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Sounds great, thanks to everyone who's volunteering for on-call.<br>
<br>
And back on the subject of Legal mumbo jumbo, we need to do two things:<br>
<br>
a) Find a lawyer who's willing to help us either for free or at<br>
severely reduced cost (Any lawyers on the OLUG list?)<br>
b) Figure out whether we want a corporation or an LLC. �I have two<br>
sets of Articles, one for nonprofit organization and one for a generic<br>
LLC.<br>
<br>
I'll assume that everyone who listed their name and address wants to<br>
be either a manager or a Director, depending on which entity we<br>
choose.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<br>
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Dave Thacker <<a href="mailto:dthacker9@cox.net">dthacker9@cox.net</a>> wrote:<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">> On Friday 03 April 2009 18:05:01 <a href="mailto:charles.bird@powerdnn.com">charles.bird@powerdnn.com</a> wrote:<br>
>> I can also maintain oncall status<br>
>> ------Original Message------<br>
><br>
> I can do oncall too. �I'm already 24x7 for the "real job" �I've cleared my<br>
> potential uses of the company Blackberry with the corporate powers that be.<br>
><br>
> Dave<br>
><br>
>> From: Dan Clough<br>
>> Sender: <a href="mailto:olug-colo-bounces@olug.org">olug-colo-bounces@olug.org</a><br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:olug-colo@olug.org">olug-colo@olug.org</a><br>
>> ReplyTo: Olug Community colo project<br>
>> Subject: [olug-colo] The Legal Mumbo-Jumbo<br>
>> Sent: Apr 3, 2009 5:35 PM<br>
>><br>
>> Okay, I have a template Articles of Organization in hand (well, on<br>
>> disk) and can fill them out right now.<br>
>><br>
>> A few things to clarify:<br>
>><br>
>> The legal name of the operation will be Omaha Internet Exchange, LLC<br>
>> with a secondary trade name, OIX LLC. �Nice similarity to KCIX, LLC<br>
>> down in Kansas City.<br>
>><br>
>> Where will the registered office be?<br>
>><br>
>> Who will our registered agent be?<br>
>><br>
>> Do we want management via managers or should all members be equal managers?<br>
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