[olug-colo] The Legal Mumbo-Jumbo

Charles.Bird charles.bird at powerdnn.com
Fri Apr 3 21:54:19 EDT 2009


scola broadcasts alot of feeds to sat, and users subscribe to the feeds, or
different channels. Same with streaming video and audio.
They recieve donations of money, equipment etc. They also have funding for
projects that comes from elsewhere.
I know quite a bit, and I cant really get into details, someone will have to
get me drinking for me to spill all the beans, and then it might not make
sense!

If we become a bonified hosting company for profit, I might have to setp out
as I have a signed non-compete with MobileNow Corp.
They are releasing Linux webhosting within a month or so, I had been working
on it here and there for about 8 months now.



On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Dan Clough <dclough at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, having a lawyer look over things would be nice.  I'm not exactly
> sure what the difference is in process between setting up a for-profit
> LLC and a non-profit LLC.
>
> I don't think 501(c)3 is the best route to take because it requires
> alot of bureaucratic red tape and we'd need a team of people just to
> deal with the IRS.  Nonprofit LLC without tax-exemption is really all
> we'll be able to manage for now due to manpower, time and money
> issues.
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Brian Roberson <roberson at bstc.net> wrote:
> > I think the other way around the "services rendered" stuff is to call
> them
> > membership fee's...
> > What services does SCOLA charge for? I think there is also a requirement
> for
> > a "Board of Directors" with a 501c3 (again... I may be talking out my
> ass,
> > just something we need to sort out legally)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 3, 2009, at 8:16 PM, Charles.Bird wrote:
> >
> > SCOLA is nonprofit, they charge for services and get money in donations
> :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Brian Roberson <roberson at bstc.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> So, here is where we need to tap into a non profit lawyer for
> >> information. I think there is a problem with charging for services
> >> rendered when you are a non profit. I dont see Adam Haeder on the list
> >> yet, but I think we may be able to tap into some resources via the AIM
> >> institute for this legal help..
> >>
> >>
> >> Adam?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 3, 2009, at 8:08 PM, Dan Clough wrote:
> >>
> >> > Yes, and that's why I'm unsure that a nonprofit is really the best
> >> > direction to go with this.  If this gets to the point where we need
> >> > full-time people to manage it, nonprofit status might complicate
> >> > matters.
> >> >
> >> > Since I'm working on articles, does someone want to write up a
> >> > business plan?
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Brian Roberson <roberson at bstc.net>
> >> >
> >> > Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:04:27
> >> > To: Olug Community colo project<olug-colo at olug.org>
> >> > Subject: Re: [olug-colo] The Legal Mumbo-Jumbo
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > LOL...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I will have input on just about everything, so you can put me down as
> >> > "Architect" ; or "Chief Propeller Head"
> >> >
> >> > :)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Before we get too far down the road of any contract signing and/or
> >> > Article creation, we need to all agree on a charter, aka Business
> >> > Plan. The up and down side here, is the fact that there is a
> >> > possibility of actually making money out of this, and we have to make
> >> > sure we are aware of the beneficiaries. I am all for philanthropy, but
> >> > I think everyone that puts in time should be duly compensated.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Apr 3, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Phil Brutsche wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I'll have my hands in the network infrastructure.
> >> >>
> >> >> Luke-Jr wrote:
> >> >>> I don't really know how normal businesses work in the real world,
> >> >>> but what
> >> >>> about something where we have managers of specific areas. For
> >> >>> example,
> >> >>> (assuming I'm alone in this area) I might be the OpenVZ manager,
> >> >>> and someone
> >> >>> else might be the Xen manager; someone would be the web design
> >> >>> manager, and so
> >> >>> on...
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> Phil Brutsche
> >> >> phil at brutsche.us
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